Mel Gibson's Anti-Semetic Tirade

[Rupert Pupkin]

As most of you probably know, Mel Gibson was arrested for a DUI early Friday morning. The details of the arrest are just starting to come out. Apparently Gibson became very combative with officers and threatened them. He said that if they arrested him that he would "get even with them". He then went into a anti-semitic tirade saying that " ****ing Jews are responsible for all the wars in the world. Are you a Jew?"
Mel Gibson's father is a well-known anti-semite who denies that the Holocaust ever happened. I guess the apple doesn't fall far from the tree in this case.

[SentToStud]

I remember a couple years ago some rabbi called for Gibson's arrest under the Patriot Act through a Jewish defense league for a movie he made. Maybe no love lost in either direction there.

[timmgirvan]

Pretty freaky behavior for only blowing a .12 Sissy!

Mel Gibson is another religious nut. I don't blame Jews, Christians, Muslims, I blame all religions. On any given day one is crazier than the other. Irrational people that live in the Stone Age, all of them.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Mel Gibson is another religious nut. I don't blame Jews, Christians, Muslims, I blame all religions. On any given day one is crazier than the other. Irrational people that live in the Stone Age, all of them.

If you study the pagan religions, you might change your mind. There are many earth-bound religions that don't teach superiority or an "inside track" to the Almighty! One thing for sure, Wicca never started any wars!

Originally Posted by somerfrost

If you study the pagan religions, you might change your mind. There are many earth-bound religions that don't teach superiority or an "inside track" to the Almighty! One thing for sure, Wicca never started any wars!

It doesn't matter which religion you choose, they are all just something that some people conjured together, probably over drinks, and people grasped on to them. I am all for believing in a God, but religions and their rules are all man made nonsense.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by boldruler

It doesn't matter which religion you choose, they are all just something that some people conjured together, probably over drinks, and people grasped on to them. I am all for believing in a God, but religions and their rules are all man made nonsense.

I understand your point...the only "rule" in Wicca is stated below! All religions have their methodology and rituals, I don't really see a problem there. The problem arises when a religion teaches that their beliefs and rituals are the "only way" to the Almighty.

[GenuineRisk]

Originally Posted by somerfrost

If you study the pagan religions, you might change your mind. There are many earth-bound religions that don't teach superiority or an "inside track" to the Almighty! One thing for sure, Wicca never started any wars!

Yeah, but Wicca's been around barely 100 years; give it time.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Yeah, but Wicca's been around barely 100 years; give it time.

Actually...Wicca or Witchcraft is possibly the oldest of the pagan religions, recent archaeological discoveries indicate that it may have been practiced 30,000 years ago which pre-dates Christianity by 28,000 years!

Originally Posted by SentToStud

I remember a couple years ago some rabbi called for Gibson's arrest under the Patriot Act through a Jewish defense league for a movie he made. Maybe no love lost in either direction there.

The JDL is hardcore. They go overboard imo. I dont think they represent the mainstream.

[Seattleallstar]

Mel Gibson is a great spokesman for my religion, im glad hes on our side

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by Seattleallstar

Mel Gibson is a great spokesman for my religion, im glad hes on our side

Gibson is hardly a great spokesman for Christians, not after those shameful comments. His anti-semetic comments are disgraceful. The comments are incredibly ignorant too. As a Christian, I am ashamed of his comments. I guess his comments are not that shocking though considering that his father thinks that the Holocaust never happened.
If there's one thing that I can't figure out, it's Christians that don't like Jews. If you are a Christian, then your religion is based on the Bible. In the Bible, God says that Jews are his people. So how could a Christian dislike Jews? That would basically be going against your own religion. How would a Christian expect to have God's favor if they dislike God's people?
One thing funny about Gibson's commnets is that his agent of 20 years is Jewish.

[Cajungator26]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Gibson is hardly a great spokesman for Christians, not after those shameful comments. His anti-semetic comments are disgraceful. The comments are incredibly ignorant too. As a Christian, I am ashamed of his comments. I guess his comments are not that shocking though considering that his father thinks that the Holocaust never happened.
If there's one thing that I can't figure out, it's Christians that don't like Jews. If you are a Christian, then your religion is based on the Bible. In the Bible, God says that Jews are his people. So how could a Christian dislike Jews? That would basically be going against your own religion. How would a Christian expect to have God's favor if they dislike God's people?
One thing funny about Gibson's commnets is that his agent of 20 years is Jewish.

I agree with this statement, 100%. The Jews are God's people and any Christian who dislikes the Jews is in the wrong.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

Gibson is hardly a great spokesman for Christians, not after those shameful comments. His anti-semetic comments are disgraceful. The comments are incredibly ignorant too. As a Christian, I am ashamed of his comments. I guess his comments are not that shocking though considering that his father thinks that the Holocaust never happened.
If there's one thing that I can't figure out, it's Christians that don't like Jews. If you are a Christian, then your religion is based on the Bible. In the Bible, God says that Jews are his people. So how could a Christian dislike Jews? That would basically be going against your own religion. How would a Christian expect to have God's favor if they dislike God's people?
One thing funny about Gibson's commnets is that his agent of 20 years is Jewish.

I don't think that his father thinks that the holocaust never happened.

What he said is that the number of jews killed seems to keep going up.

4 million, to 8 million, to 12 million, etc....

Basically he was saying that the jews were using the holocaust as a means for advancement. Which is a whole other can of worms.

But I don't think that Mel or his Father ever absolutely denied the holocaust.

History is always up for debate.

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by moodwalker

I don't think that his father thinks that the holocaust never happened.

What he said is that the number of jews killed seems to keep going up.

4 million, to 8 million, to 12 million, etc....

Basically he was saying that the jews were using the holocaust as a means for advancement. Which is a whole other can of worms.

But I don't think that Mel or his Father ever absolutely denied the holocaust.

History is always up for debate.

You may be right about that. I recently read that Mel had said in an interview that his father did not deny the Holocaust but just said it was exagerrated. I don't know if that is true or not but I know that that is what Mel claims.

Either way, I think it is pretty obvious that his father is anti-semetic. Who, other than an anti-semite would be bickering about whether it was 4 million or 6 million Jews killed in concentration camps? That would be like me saying that John Wayne Gasey is not as bad a guy as everyone says. I don't think he killed as many people as they say. They say he killed 50 people but I think he only killed 35 people.
By the way, I don't think there is much debate as to how many Jews died in the Holocaust. I think that historians are pretty confident that the number is about 6 million. In the years right after the Holocaust, it may have taken them a while to come up with a figure. Mel was claiming that his dad claims that they originally said the number was 12 million and then they lowered it to 10 million and then 6 million. I don't know if that's true or not but even if it is true it doesn't mean that anyone was fudging the numbers. It just means that it took a while for them to figure out how many people died. Even with 9/11 and the World Trade Center, it took them several months to figure out how many people died. I think the number ended up being about 3000 but they originally had no idea what the number was. A few days after 9/11, there were all kinds of numbers out there. Some people thought the number was well over 10,000.

By the way, former KKK member David Duke is another guy who says the Holocaust was greatly exagerrated.

[Scurlogue Champ]

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

You may be right about that. I recently read that Mel had said in an interview that his father did not deny the Holocaust but just said it was exagerrated. I don't know if that is true or not but I know that that is what Mel claims.

Either way, I think it is pretty obvious that his father is anti-semetic. Who, other than an anti-semite would be bickering about whether it was 4 million or 6 million Jews killed in concentration camps? That would be like me saying that John Wayne Gasey is not as bad a guy as everyone says. I don't think he killed as many people as they say. They say he killed 50 people but I think he only killed 35 people.
By the way, I don't think there is much debate as to how many Jews died in the Holocaust. I think that historians are pretty confident that the number is about 6 million. In the years right after the Holocaust, it may have taken them a while to come up with a figure. Mel was claiming that his dad claims that they originally said the number was 12 million and then they lowered it to 10 million and then 6 million. I don't know if that's true or not but even if it is true it doesn't mean that anyone was fudging the numbers. It just means that it took a while for them to figure out how many people died. Even with 9/11 and the World Trade Center, it took them several months to figure out how many people died. I think the number ended up being about 3000 but they originally had no idea what the number was. A few days after 9/11, there were all kinds of numbers out there. Some people thought the number was well over 10,000.

By the way, former KKK member David Duke is another guy who says the Holocaust was greatly exagerrated.

Well, it is definitely another topic totally why his dad would say that the numbers were exaggerated or fudged. There is always debate about everything, regardless of who you believe to be correct.

I personally don't much care either way, I was just saying that his dad didn't say that there was no such thing as the holocaust.

But you are correct, he is an anti-semite. And I guess this can be categorically said due to some of his published quotes.

To answer your question as to who, other than an anti-semite, might be debating the number killed? I would have to say historians might be debating it. Are you asserting that by even questioning matters concerning the history of the jewish people, you are automatically an anti-semite?

You winding it up by making sure that you mention David Duke was a nice touch. That guy is whacko, but in no way represents everyone who researches the holocaust.

[Danzig]

http://www.tmz.com/2006/07/28/gibson...eged-cover-up/

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mel gibsons career may be over. no one to blame but himself. he even tried to escape, and now the sheriffs dept is in hot water for trying to cover up his behavior that night.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Is this on tape? I don't know what anybody can do to fix this. Pretty much like trying to get somebody to walk after they have been paralyzed.I don't think alcohol makes you say stuff you don't believe.That is what he is trying to sell?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Is this on tape? I don't know what anybody can do to fix this. Pretty much like trying to get somebody to walk after they have been paralyzed.I don't think alcohol makes you say stuff you don't believe.That is what he is trying to sell?

there was a link to an adobe of the actual report written by the arresting officer. supposedly there is audio even of him in his cell--and most police now have dashboard cameras. just a matter of time before the tape is shown.

.12 and he loses his control so completely??

in vino veritas. many will say drunk what would NEVER pass their lips sober--yet they're thinking it...they just remain in control til the booze starts to work and inhibitions melt away.

as for his career, funny tom cruise would also be mentioned...that guy started all his crazy actions on talk shows and such, remember his rant on psychology?? his mission impossible that was in the pipeline absolutely tanked.
mel is DONE. and it's his own fault.

[Downthestretch55]

I heard he's headed to rehab.
Might be best for him until people "forget".
If I might ask, how come he didn't call a cab? He can definitely afford it.
What did he make on "The Passion of Christ"? 200 Million?
He needs to take time out.
Thsi is very stupid.

(and everytime I looked at this thread, I bit my fingers so that I wouldn't type anything). Now I've said it.