Curlin and Big Brown...JUST SAY NO!

[richard burch]

In todays NY Daily News a match race between the 2 horses is being talked about after the Breeders Cup. Very Stupid.

Isn't this a dangerous proposition? Why would you risk your horses health to satisfy an ego trip? It would be much better and safer to see them race in a 6+ horse field against other good horses. Match races do not show who is the "better" horse because it is not normal race conditions. It just puts more stress on the horse and jockey to win at all costs.

I will appeal to Jess Jackson because he seems to be the more rational of the two participants. Please don't take Dutrows bait. The Jackson family certainly doesn't need the money. I hope he remembers Ruffian.

[blackthroatedwind]

Why exactly is a match race more risky than any race? I don't get it.

[CSC]

A match race didn't hurt Seabiscuit or War Admiral, nor did it hurt the game. I can't understand why anyone who loves horseracing or sporting events would be against this idea. I just find it hard to believe it will happen.

[slotdirt]

Just because Ruffian went down in a match race doesn't mean match races are altogether bad. Should we stop running the Preakness, Derby, Breeders Cup Distaff, CompUSA Dixie, or $7500 claimers on a Wednesday at Timonium, because horses have all broken down in those races in recent years as well.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

Why exactly is a match race more risky than any race? I don't get it.

good question, i don't either.
every match race involving top horses came out fine for decades as far as i know. seems that one race is responsible for every match race/filly vs colts debate out there.

[westcoastinvader]

Originally Posted by Danzig

good question, i don't either.
every match race involving top horses came out fine for decades as far as i know. seems that one race is responsible for every match race/filly vs colts debate out there.

No logic to explain behind my sentiment, but I would just find a match race boring.

Really.

Match races are not the way I have pictured or enjoyed this sport in my lifetime.

One on one horse races are for a different fandom, time and place.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by westcoastinvader

No logic to explain behind my sentiment, but I would find a match race boring.

Really.

Match races are not the way I have pictured or enjoyed this sport in my lifetime.

One on one horse races are for a different fandom, time and place.

they may be boring, i remember watching one a few months ago at calder, all but two horses scratched.
the excitement generated would probably be all pre-race if these two were to face off. i just disagree that matches shouldn't happen due to any safety issues. matter of fact, they're probably safer than a full field-how often have we seen when several horses pay a price when the lead horse breaks down?

[cowgirlintexas]

I think in the "good 'ole days" they were exciting and thousands would flock to see the race.. In todays times, I just don't see that happening.. It wold be like "Yeah, o.k..who won".. next race... I don't think that there would be any greater chance of one or the other breaking a leg either just because it was a match race..Unless of course there was something wrong with one of them before they ever stepped foot on the track. Which in this case.. could be either or at this point.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by richard burch

In todays NY Daily News a match race between the 2 horses is being talked about after the Breeders Cup. Very Stupid.

Isn't this a dangerous proposition? Why would you risk your horses health to satisfy an ego trip? It would be much better and safer to see them race in a 6+ horse field against other good horses. Match races do not show who is the "better" horse because it is not normal race conditions. It just puts more stress on the horse and jockey to win at all costs.

I will appeal to Jess Jackson because he seems to be the more rational of the two participants. Please don't take Dutrows bait. The Jackson family certainly doesn't need the money. I hope he remembers Ruffian.

Dude, are you serious? Its like saying Kobe and Lebron shouldnt play a game of 1 on 1 because they are more likely to get hurt, than if they played in a team setting.
There are match races that take place everyday at every track, There just happens to be other horses on the track.

LIE AH just wants a match race because they know its there only shot to beat the champ.

[CSC]

No one is more sad than I when any horse breaks down, however I hope this doesn't sound too esoteric.... I'm sure god didn't create horses with the intention of them being put in a petting zoo...they have to do what they were created for.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Dude, are you serious? Its like saying Kobe and Lebron shouldnt play a game of 1 on 1 because they are more likely to get hurt, than if they played in a team setting.
There are match races that take place everyday at every track, There just happens to be other horses on the track.

LIE AH just wants a match race because they know its there only shot to beat the champ.

the difference is that if lebron breaks his ankle they dont euthanize him....DUDE!

[mes5107]

Originally Posted by richard burch

the difference is that if lebron breaks his ankle they dont euthanize him....DUDE!

I think he is saying that a match race presents no more probability of injury than a race with a larger field. Whether or not a horse has a catosrophic injury in a match race or a race with a full field, he will still be euthanized.

[Indian Charlie]

While match races are a clear danger to the two horses in the race, I think people are missing what's really dangerous for a horse.

That's when they run by themselves, in workouts. There are workout fatalities on a daily basis. These are what should have a stop put to them.

[cakes44]

Put a stop to workouts?

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by richard burch

I hope he remembers Ruffian.

They shouldn't have it on a dirt surface either. Doesn't anyone remember Barbaro?

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

They shouldn't have it on a dirt surface either. Doesn't anyone remember Barbaro?

yes i remember...his picture is next to my name.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

If you really have your horse ready, then why would you only want to beat one horse(and in a race that will never be held again.) Wouldn't you just race in the biggest races you can find? A great horse should be able to beat good horses on any surface (even if he just tolerates the surface.) If he can't, then he is just another good horse.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

A great horse should be able to beat good horses on any surface (even if he just tolerates the surface.) If he can't, then he is just another good horse.

An ordinary horse should be able to beat mediocre horses on any surface. If he can't, then he is just another Yankee Bravo.

[richard burch]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

If you really have your horse ready, then why would you only want to beat one horse(and in a race that will never be held again.) Wouldn't you just race in the biggest races you can find? A great horse should be able to beat good horses on any surface (even if he just tolerates the surface.) If he can't, then he is just another good horse.

nice reply...finally, someone who understands.

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Originally Posted by richard burch

nice reply...finally, someone who understands.