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Old 09-11-2008, 02:54 PM
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Default 9/13 (BEL): Noble Damsel; Matron; Futurity; Gazelle

6th (3:39) Noble Damsel H. (G3)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Say You Will (IRE) Velazquez J R 114 L
2 Cozzi Capital Velasquez C 116 L
3 Classic Neel Bridgmohan S X 114 L
4 Nans Joy (IRE) Maragh R 115 FTL
5 Trouble Maker Coa E M 115 L
6 Criminologist Prado E S 119 L
7 Waquoit's Love Gomez G K 115 L
8 Sefroua Garcia Alan 113
9 Chestoria Hill C 116



7th (4:11) Futurity S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 High Mesa Saez G 120 FTL
2 Kensei Bridgmohan S X 120 L
3 Flying Pegasus Velasquez C 120 L
4 Friesan Fire Thompson T J 120 FTL
5 Gone Astray Gomez G K 120 L
6 Girolamo Velazquez J R 120 L
7 Charitable Man Garcia Alan 120 L



8th (4:43) Matron S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Doremifasollatido Coa E M 119 L
2 On the Menu Thompson T J 119 FTL
3 Vegas Wedding Luzzi M J 119 L
4 Miss Ocean City Velazquez J R 119 L
5 Argyle Pink Velasquez C 119 L
6 Heavenly Vision Prado E S 119 L
7 Obsequious Gomez G K 119 L
8 Persistently Garcia Alan 119 L
9 Saintly Rose Nakatani C S 119 L



9th (5:15) Gazelle S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Awesome I Am Maragh R 115 L
2 Hamsa Coa E M 115 L
3 Country Star Velazquez J R 119 L
4 Mega Gomez G K 115 L
5 Music Note Castellano J J 122 L
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:07 PM
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6th (3:39) Noble Damsel H. (G3)

1 Mile (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 3 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $100,000

1 Say You Will (IRE) Velazquez J R 114 L
2 Cozzi Capital Velasquez C 116 L
3 Classic Neel Bridgmohan S X 114 L
4 Nans Joy (IRE) Maragh R 115 FTL
5 Trouble Maker Coa E M 115 L
6 Criminologist Prado E S 119 L
7 Waquoit's Love Gomez G K 115 L
8 Sefroua Garcia Alan 113
9 Chestoria Hill C 116



7th (4:11) Futurity S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Open | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 High Mesa Saez G 120 FTL
2 Kensei Bridgmohan S X 120 L
3 Flying Pegasus Velasquez C 120 L
4 Friesan Fire Thompson T J 120 FTL
5 Gone Astray Gomez G K 120 L
6 Girolamo Velazquez J R 120 L
7 Charitable Man Garcia Alan 120 L



8th (4:43) Matron S. (G2)

7 Furlongs | Fillies | 2 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Doremifasollatido Coa E M 119 L
2 On the Menu Thompson T J 119 FTL
3 Vegas Wedding Luzzi M J 119 L
4 Miss Ocean City Velazquez J R 119 L
5 Argyle Pink Velasquez C 119 L
6 Heavenly Vision Prado E S 119 L
7 Obsequious Gomez G K 119 L
8 Persistently Garcia Alan 119 L
9 Saintly Rose Nakatani C S 119 L



9th (5:15) Gazelle S. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Fillies | 3 Year Olds Stakes | Purse: $250,000

1 Awesome I Am Maragh R 115 L
2 Hamsa Coa E M 115 L
3 Country Star Velazquez J R 119 L
4 Mega Gomez G K 115 L
5 Music Note Castellano J J 122 L

Does anyone else think Country Star can win this ?
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:20 AM
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Does anyone else think Country Star can win this ?
I don't think she's as bad as many think, but as Phil noted she was lucky in her last that she wasn't DQ'd, she was bad at Keeneland, she was bad in the Kentucky Oaks...I guess if Music Note doesn't show up today, she might be the one, however I don't think the price will be a square one for what most likely is going to be the overbet Frankel horse.

The only thing I can see making a bet on her is we haven't seen her on a fast track yet. So I guess she's abit of an unknown on dirt.
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Old 09-13-2008, 11:38 AM
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I think the Noble Damsel is probably the most interesting betting race of the 3 stks today. Criminologist and Say You will are probably going to take the bulk of the money here but they are a notch below the best female turfers so at a short price not much to get excited about, I'm going stabbing with the only 3 yr old in the field Sefroua from France, was hoping for soft turf and she gets it today. Finished second to Ocean Music who ran at Del Mar which may or may not be a good reference. But that was at 7 furlongs, probably not her favorite distance. I'll take 9-2 or better.
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Old 09-13-2008, 05:50 PM
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Another of one of Durkin's patented calls (or vocals) with Doremifasollatido winning the Matron. If this horse would go on to win the BC Juvenile Fillies, too bad Durkin no longer works the Breeders Cup.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:19 PM
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if they did, I'm sure they are changing their mind now.
Thats solid handicapping strategy.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:27 PM
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This coming from the child that goes through racing cards looking for horses sired by Giant's Causeway, so he can fake bet them.

How can Country Star win? Enlighten me.
your the man... I will post all my picks for Saturday, and you just bet against them. Again Amazing Strategy, great way to bet.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:34 PM
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I'm asking you a serious question. What about Country Star's chances do you like?
OK, well we can start with Value, i clearly want no part of Music Note at 1-5.... if i play the pick 4, i will use both or single Country Star.
Small group, 2nd start back, turf to dirt.......... Should sit a perfrect trip, i see her being closer then Music Note and getting first run on her. The reassons to give her a chance in this spot are clear/obvious... Some ppl would use her, just as a alternative to the favorite.
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:17 PM
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OK, well we can start with Value, i clearly want no part of Music Note at 1-5.... if i play the pick 4, i will use both or single Country Star.
Small group, 2nd start back, turf to dirt.......... Should sit a perfrect trip, i see her being closer then Music Note and getting first run on her. The reassons to give her a chance in this spot are clear/obvious... Some ppl would use her, just as a alternative to the favorite.
Did you actually see any of Country Star's races?

She was terrible at Keeneland. Terrible in the Kentucky Oaks. Should have been taken down at Saratoga. She is the most overrated horse currently running.

She has NO shot on Saturday. NONE. ZERO.
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Old 09-11-2008, 08:38 PM
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Say you Handicap a race, and its a 7-8 horse group, and you only come up with one X, 7 live horses.... 2 a's 5b's... what do you do ?
do you not bet, do you use all of them ? how do you attack it ?
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:45 PM
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If I handicap a race and come up with 7 live horses, I turn the page to the next race.
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Old 09-11-2008, 09:51 PM
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I'm thinking if they had entered that RUNT, Indian Blessing, in the Gazelle, there'd be boost in attendance. I know I'd make the trip out there to watch her collapse when the serious running starts. Guess her connections didn't want to risk the heart attack.

No fun anymore at the track.
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:04 PM
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I'm thinking if they had entered that RUNT, Indian Blessing, in the Gazelle, there'd be boost in attendance. I know I'd make the trip out there to watch her collapse when the serious running starts. Guess her connections didn't want to risk the heart attack.

No fun anymore at the track.

Yet, she still might handle Country Star.
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Old 09-11-2008, 10:06 PM
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Yet, she still might handle Country Star.
I think Indian Blessing would smoke Country Star...
Any Distance.
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