Israel suspending air bombing

for 48 hrs.

Asking people to leave Southern Lebanon and humanitarian aide groups to come in to help people that have been hurt in the bombing. Israel has released sensitive material showing Hezbollah rockets being launched from behind buildings containing civilians.

If this is all true. The people of Lebanon need to do their best to get away from any Hezbollah missile firing now. Dont think this is the end. Just a way to satisfy humanitarian efforts for innocents. The support for Hezbollah is huge, so citizens doing so, are risking their lives for an operation that feeds them, and then turns around and fires rockets at Israel so they will be targeted. The most shameful use of innocent people. Political fodder, thats what the people of Southern Lebanon have become.

Why is it so hard to see through this charade?

Israel needs to grow some balls like the US and go in with troops and weed out the terrorists or stop altogether. Bombing civilians is the act of cowards.

[somerfrost]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Israel needs to grow some balls like the US and go in with troops and weed out the terrorists or stop altogether. Bombing civilians is the act of cowards.

Which is what the terrorists are! Israel isn't bombing innocent civilians, they are attacking terrorist sites...as Pgardn said, it's the terrorists who deliberately hide in civilian areas...do you think a land invasion would produce fewer deaths? A bullet kills just as dead as a bomb!

Originally Posted by somerfrost

Which is what the terrorists are! Israel isn't bombing innocent civilians, they are attacking terrorist sites...as Pgardn said, it's the terrorists who deliberately hide in civilian areas...do you think a land invasion would produce fewer deaths? A bullet kills just as dead as a bomb!

Well go in and get the terrorists then. Air strikes are useless against terrorists. If you know where they are why do you need to drop bombs and kill innocent people. Why? Because they are cowards. They are more willing to kill innocent people than to lose members of their army. Case Closed.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Israel needs to grow some balls like the US and go in with troops and weed out the terrorists or stop altogether. Bombing civilians is the act of cowards.

Using buildings full of children to fire from is the act of ANIMALS. They Know Israel will target their missiles.

[Downthestretch55]

Seems to me that this is the only way that Israel and the US could prevent further deterioration in the Arab world. And all the while, I thought we were creating fewer terrorists. And NO, I don't condone Hezzbolah's actions.

Story:
JERUSALEM (AP) - Israel agreed to a 48-hour suspension of aerial activity over southern Lebanon after its bombing of a Lebanese village on Sunday that killed a number of children, the U.S. State Department said.

The attack marred Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's mission to halt the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah.

The suspension of over-flights was announced by State Department spokesman Adam Ereli. He said Israel has reserved the right to attack targets if it learns that attacks are being prepared against them.

"The United States welcomes this decision and hopes that it will help relieve the suffering of the children and families of southern Lebanon," Ereli told reporters traveling with Rice.

In Jerusalem, the Israeli army spokesman's office said it knew nothing of an agreement to halt airstrikes in Lebanon for 48 hours. Government officials were not immediately available for comment.

A State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity about the evolving situation, said Rice had been working on such an agreement for some time before the attack on Qana, Lebanon. The airstrike early Sunday killed more than 50 people, including many children.

Ereli said that Israel will coordinate with the United Nations to allow a 24-hour period of safe passage for all residents of south Lebanon who want to leave the region.

"We expect that Israel will implement these decisions so as to significantly speed and improve the flow of humanitarian aid," he added.

At the United Nations today, Secretary-General Kofi Annan urged the Security Council, meeting in emergency session, to condemn the Qana attack and to call for an immediate cease-fire.



Condemn the attack... NO. Apologies for the deaths yes. Hezbollah appears to have been firing 20-30 yards from the building the children in. WITF is Kofi smoking? How about condemning Hezbollah for firing where they KNOW civilians will be killed.

Originally Posted by Downthestretch55

Seems to me that this is the only way that Israel and the US could prevent further deterioration in the Arab world. And all the while, I thought we were creating fewer terrorists. And NO, I don't condone Hezzbolah's actions.

Story:
JERUSALEM (AP) - Israel agreed to a 48-hour suspension of aerial activity over southern Lebanon after its bombing of a Lebanese village on Sunday that killed a number of children, the U.S. State Department said.

The attack marred Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice's mission to halt the fighting between Israel and Hezbollah.

The suspension of over-flights was announced by State Department spokesman Adam Ereli. He said Israel has reserved the right to attack targets if it learns that attacks are being prepared against them.

"The United States welcomes this decision and hopes that it will help relieve the suffering of the children and families of southern Lebanon," Ereli told reporters traveling with Rice.

In Jerusalem, the Israeli army spokesman's office said it knew nothing of an agreement to halt airstrikes in Lebanon for 48 hours. Government officials were not immediately available for comment.

A State Department official, who spoke on condition of anonymity about the evolving situation, said Rice had been working on such an agreement for some time before the attack on Qana, Lebanon. The airstrike early Sunday killed more than 50 people, including many children.

Ereli said that Israel will coordinate with the United Nations to allow a 24-hour period of safe passage for all residents of south Lebanon who want to leave the region.

"We expect that Israel will implement these decisions so as to significantly speed and improve the flow of humanitarian aid," he added.

Israel did what they are supposed to do. When the US tells them to jump, they say how high. The US should have done this days ago. If Hezzbollah keeps fighting then Israel should do whatever they want, but when you take US money, you do what we tell you. Atleast they got that straight.

[Downthestretch55]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Israel did what they are supposed to do. When the US tells them to jump, they say how high. The US should have done this days ago. If Hezzbollah keeps fighting then Israel should do whatever they want, but when you take US money, you do what we tell you. Atleast they got that straight.

Pgardn and Bold Ruler,
While I certainly respect your intelligent opinions, I think there is something much more important at stake.
Israel is hell bent on dragging the US into this conflict (besides the US supplied weapons). Hezzbolah rides the point for the Arab world.
Despite a short term cease fire to evacuate the innocents, this situation has ramifications that will escalate very quickly.
In the current state of affairs, it's very easy to point fingers and accuse each side of being "animals".
Unfortunately, that doesn't bring resolution to the matter.
Blaming continues to incite.
The Arab world is "on fire" now.
In my view, it's time to take a deep breath.

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines06/0729-02.htm

Originally Posted by pgardn

Using buildings full of children to fire from is the act of ANIMALS. They Know Israel will target their missiles.

Great so they are animals. I agree. What does that make somebody that kills innocent people though. I'll tell you, animals. Why doesn't Israel go in and root them out? I will tell you why, because they are cowards that feel the life of innocent people is worth less than members of their own army.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Great so they are animals. I agree. What does that make somebody that kills innocent people though. I'll tell you, animals. Why doesn't Israel go in and root them out? I will tell you why, because they are cowards that feel the life of innocent people is worth less than members of their own army.

Utter BS. They rooted them out 20 years ago and they came right back. It did NOT work. Israel really needs to LEVEL 20 miles of Southern Lebanon and declare it a dead zone. No people enter, no military from the UN or anywhere else. Enter the zone and you are taken out by the UN patrolling outside the zone. If the UN cant do this, then Israel and the US will oversee the 20 mile zone.
If Hezbollah continues to use longer range rockets, make the zone wider.

Just stinkin level it. Get everyone out and destroy everything. Syria did it exactly this to an entire city that opposed their regime except they did not let anyone leave.

Originally Posted by pgardn

Utter BS. They rooted them out 20 years ago and they came right back. It did NOT work. Israel really needs to LEVEL 20 miles of Southern Lebanon and declare it a dead zone. No people enter, no military from the UN or anywhere else. Enter the zone and you are taken out by the UN patrolling outside the zone. If the UN cant do this, then Israel and the US will oversee the 20 mile zone.
If Hezbollah continues to use longer range rockets, make the zone wider.

Just stinkin level it. Get everyone out and destroy everything. Syria did it exactly this to an entire city that opposed their regime except they did not let anyone leave.

Why is the US, my country, doing anything? You want to waste more of my tax dolar overseeing a zone so two groups of Stone Age people can kill each other. No thanks. It is bad enough my money is given to Israel when people in my own military are underpaid and need better health insurance.

Please explain to me what the US gets out of helping Israel anyway. Answer. Nothing.

Are you an American or an Israeli? Where is your allegiance?

[Rupert Pupkin]

Originally Posted by boldruler

Israel needs to grow some balls like the US and go in with troops and weed out the terrorists or stop altogether. Bombing civilians is the act of cowards.

What are you talking about? Israel has gone into Lebanon with thousands of troops over the last two weeks. Wars are usually a combination of troops and bombings. We did a ton of bombing in Iraq.

By the way, according to your logic, I guess we were huge cowards dropping a couple of nuclear bombs on Japan in World War II. I would argue that it was not cowardly on our part at all. Japan attacked us and we were defending ourselves. I guess according to your logic, we should have gone into Japan with troops instead of bombing them.

Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin

What are you talking about? Israel has gone into Lebanon with thousands of troops over the last two weeks. Wars are usually a combination of troops and bombings. We did a ton of bombing in Iraq.

By the way, according to your logic, I guess we were huge cowards dropping a couple of nuclear bombs on Japan in World War II. I would argue that it was not cowardly on our part at all. Japan attacked us and we were defending ourselves. I guess according to your logic, we should have gone into Japan with troops instead of bombing them.

We also bombed the hell out of Bosnia and did not send a troop. The Euros where not happy about us not sending in ground troops. So hell yes, we got balls, spongy ones.

Originally Posted by pgardn

We also bombed the hell out of Bosnia and did not send a troop. The Euros where not happy about us not sending in ground troops. So hell yes, we got balls, spongy ones.

I can tell more and more somebody has Israel #1 on their list and the US #2.

The US military has huge balls. The aren't cowards like some countries. The US wasn't at war with Bosnia and did what they could working with the rest of the world. Israel is killing innocent people because they are afraid of casualties. Simple as that.

Originally Posted by boldruler

I can tell more and more somebody has Israel #1 on their list and the US #2.

The US military has huge balls. The aren't cowards like some countries. The US wasn't at war with Bosnia and did what they could working with the rest of the world. Israel is killing innocent people because they are afraid of casualties. Simple as that.

This is now becoming bizarre and hopeless. We want casualities so we can say we have balls? Good God. Later. Have a good evening people. Time for some work.