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Old 10-17-2008, 11:22 PM
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Default COPS FEVER --- IPS dilemma

When I like a horse that's being ridden by an indisputable IDIOT, I will only bet it if the situation is IDIOT PROOF. Now, Mike Luzzi is definitely an IDIOT. Anyone doubting this need only watch his ride last out on Cops Fever, where he gets the horse in a senseless 3 horse duel. Tomorrow, he cuts backs a 1/16, moves from the 10 hole to the rail, and is (probably) the only speed in the race. Normally, this would be an IDIOT PROOF SITUATION (IPS). But, since Luzzi is up, I'm not so sure. I'll be damned if even the IPS' are getting more and more difficult these days.
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Old 10-17-2008, 11:38 PM
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When I like a horse that's being ridden by an indisputable IDIOT, I will only bet it if the situation is IDIOT PROOF. Now, Mike Luzzi is definitely an IDIOT. Anyone doubting this need only watch his ride last out on Cops Fever, where he gets the horse in a senseless 3 horse duel. Tomorrow, he cuts backs a 1/16, moves from the 10 hole to the rail, and is (probably) the only speed in the race. Normally, this would be an IDIOT PROOF SITUATION (IPS). But, since Luzzi is up, I'm not so sure. I'll be damned if even the IPS' are getting more and more difficult these days.
HMMM.... on top of EVERYTHING YOU SAID, this is one of the worst groups i have seen. this horse should be able to wire these tomorrow
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:02 AM
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When I like a horse that's being ridden by an indisputable IDIOT, I will only bet it if the situation is IDIOT PROOF. Now, Mike Luzzi is definitely an IDIOT. Anyone doubting this need only watch his ride last out on Cops Fever, where he gets the horse in a senseless 3 horse duel. Tomorrow, he cuts backs a 1/16, moves from the 10 hole to the rail, and is (probably) the only speed in the race. Normally, this would be an IDIOT PROOF SITUATION (IPS). But, since Luzzi is up, I'm not so sure. I'll be damned if even the IPS' are getting more and more difficult these days.

He's very logical but doesn't Thunderin Otis worry you? Pegasian has speed and even Coaltown Legend, with his insane rider, could send.

He's the best horse if he can rate or nobody else goes.
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:36 AM
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He's very logical but doesn't Thunderin Otis worry you? Pegasian has speed and even Coaltown Legend, with his insane rider, could send.

He's the best horse if he can rate or nobody else goes.
I think the horse can rate, as, last out, Luzzi was the one in a hurry. And, breaking from the rail, he's supposed to be able to sit a perfect trip.

But I would never touch this horse with Luzzi up. I just don't trust him.

My motivation was only to show that even situations that are straightforward can't be bet with confidence when the WRONG jock is up.
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:28 AM
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The horse is 3-1 morning line. . .
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Old 10-18-2008, 02:43 AM
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The horse is 3-1 morning line. . .
what does that have to do with anything ? you will get all of 3-1 on him if not more, FU PEG gets pounded, and clement will be bet hard.
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Old 10-18-2008, 09:39 AM
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The horse is 3-1 morning line. . .
is that considered a long shot?
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Old 10-18-2008, 12:12 PM
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you can't trust a scrub like luzzi to come through for you at 3-1.

about the only thing you can count on him is to force a first time dirt-to-turf horse on the pace

he's actually not as terrible as usual in a mile and a half race on the dirt either.
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