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Old 10-19-2008, 11:21 AM
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This deserves a wow. Whether I agree with him or not on this matter, kudos to General Powell for his honesty and willingness to cross party lines in the face of what will surely be some harsh criticism directed at him from the Rep. party.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/14714
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:35 AM
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I made the same announcement back when McCain chose the dingbat as his running mate & it didn't make news...go figure.
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:40 AM
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I made the same announcement back when McCain chose the dingbat as his running mate & it didn't make news...go figure.

I think that thread got erased
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:53 AM
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This deserves a wow. Whether I agree with him or not on this matter, kudos to General Powell for his honesty and willingness to cross party lines in the face of what will surely be some harsh criticism directed at him from the Rep. party.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/200...politico/14714
Unfortunately, people will think he's crossing party lines because of the color of his skin. Sad, but true. I respect his decision as well ... I'm just disappointed that the Republican party couldn't nominate a better candidate (ahem, Ron Paul) than McCain as I really don't think McCain has much of a shot against Obama. Sigh.
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:55 AM
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I truly believe McCain had a shot w/a different running mate.
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Old 10-19-2008, 11:57 AM
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I truly believe McCain had a shot w/a different running mate.
Could be the case, but you gotta respect McCain for taking a shot. It could have gone either way. He's rather liberal for a Republican candidate and Palin was definitely unexpected. I'm voting for McCain, but only because I think he's the lesser of the two evils. I don't think either one was the best candidate nominated for their parties, though.
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Old 10-19-2008, 12:00 PM
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I like McCain, but I actually lost a little respect for him for that choice. I just don't believe that he truly thought she was the best choice out there (how could he?) Seemed really gimmicky to me.
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I like McCain, but I actually lost a little respect for him for that choice. I just don't believe that he truly thought she was the best choice out there (how could he?) Seemed really gimmicky to me.
Yeah, I agree with that ... I think he took a chance in choosing her (maybe trying to get some of the votes from Hillary's supporters?) and I highly doubt that he thought she was the best choice out there. I would have rather Mitt Romney myself, but too late for that. I've accepted the fact that Obama is probably going to be our next President. I'll get over it at some point.
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Old 10-19-2008, 12:06 PM
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Saw Powell on Meet the Press this AM with Tom Brokaw (sp?).

I made the same decision for Obama as Powel did. Poor VP choice...Rep party moving too far right...I agee with Powell's views 100% and I do hope that Obama uses Powell in some capacity in his administration.
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Old 10-19-2008, 01:02 PM
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I truly believe McCain had a shot w/a different running mate.
i think you're right. obama is a lukewarm choice...with the economy, eight years of bush, etc--and obama still can't achieve separation in the polls? had mccain stuck with his middle of the road viewpoint, and chosen a running mate with similar middle thoughts, and more experience, he'd be in the lead, rather than trailing by (depending on the polls) 2-8%. no way far righters would abandon the republic party-his choice of palin was stupid and no doubt a decision he regrets.
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Old 10-19-2008, 01:25 PM
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i think you're right. obama is a lukewarm choice...with the economy, eight years of bush, etc--and obama still can't achieve separation in the polls? had mccain stuck with his middle of the road viewpoint, and chosen a running mate with similar middle thoughts, and more experience, he'd be in the lead, rather than trailing by (depending on the polls) 2-8%. no way far righters would abandon the republic party-his choice of palin was stupid and no doubt a decision he regrets.
McCain has a very bad temper, and gets into arguments. I think Karl Rove told him he had to take Romney. Johnboy didn't like being told who to pick etc. He also got angry that Obama gave a great speech that Thursday Night he accepted the Democratic Nomination. Jealous guy couldn't take the attention that OBAMA was gunna get over the next weekend. So, you add those up, and the result is he made a poor selection for V.P. based on one thing...ANGER!!! This is not a guy that can easily calm himself, and make a rational decision. That's why he can't win these Independent types(which is what C POWELL really is.) In all those debates with OBAMA, the majority of independents kept locking into how he is a hothead. They aren't gunna vote for that type of person right now. They just want somebody to start getting the country going again. They don't think the best choice for it is heat.
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Palin's policies would be no different than any other Republican....if you like Republican policies....I don't see why she'd stop you. She'll cut your taxes and whatnot and do most of the same things Mccain would do.

I'm saying that even though I want Obama to win.
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Old 10-20-2008, 05:37 PM
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i think you're right. obama is a lukewarm choice...with the economy, eight years of bush, etc--and obama still can't achieve separation in the polls?
?? Obama has been steadily holding 6-7 points ahead of McCain for the past three weeks, with several "definitely McCain" states losing ground and changing to "leaning", and several swing states now virtually guaranteed Obama. It may end up a Democratic landslide.

I thought (as a Republican) the same way Powell did. And yes, I too think the GOP is embracing so far to the right they have become intolerant of and disinfranchising to 35-40% of their party membership (the end result being McCain has lost this election)

http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/Values.htm

http://www.democrats.org/a/party/platform.html

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i think there are many who call themselves republicans, but aren't as far to the right as palin. most americans are in the middle. some tilt to the left on some things, some to the right. but neither the far left, nor far right candidate appeals to most voters, as they fit somewhere in the middle. mccain may have drawn a lot of these middle of the road types...til he went with a far right running mate
We don't "call" ourselves Republicans, we ARE Republicans <g> Yes, the running mate was the start of the end for McCain (whom I had intended to vote for), I think. Looking back over the past couple of months, though, Palin's obvious incompetence turns out to be just a small part of the ultimate turn-off.
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Old 10-20-2008, 07:52 PM
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I don't see why McCain has to be so slimy in his campaign. He should have just stuck to what he plans to do as President, rather than constantly attack Obama. Maybe I wouldn't have voted for him still, but I sure would have respected McCain more.
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Old 10-23-2008, 08:04 AM
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?? Obama has been steadily holding 6-7 points ahead of McCain for the past three weeks, with several "definitely McCain" states losing ground and changing to "leaning", and several swing states now virtually guaranteed Obama. It may end up a Democratic landslide.

I thought (as a Republican) the same way Powell did. And yes, I too think the GOP is embracing so far to the right they have become intolerant of and disinfranchising to 35-40% of their party membership (the end result being McCain has lost this election)

http://www.gop.com/2008Platform/Values.htm

http://www.democrats.org/a/party/platform.html



We don't "call" ourselves Republicans, we ARE Republicans <g> Yes, the running mate was the start of the end for McCain (whom I had intended to vote for), I think. Looking back over the past couple of months, though, Palin's obvious incompetence turns out to be just a small part of the ultimate turn-off.
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Old 10-19-2008, 03:41 PM
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that the Republican party couldn't nominate a better candidate (ahem, Ron Paul) .
So you are really for Obama.
Ron Paul would have been destroyed.
A little peak into his past... immediate elimination.

Powell also said that McCain would make a great president.
He just said that Obama is the better choice at this time
given the current environment. He left open the idea
that in different circumstances, McCain would be the man.

He also said both men would/will make a good president.
He stated he did not like the way McCain's campaign had
adopted negativity. A bit naive. Any party behind starts
to bring out the irrelevant mud. Maybe Powell thinks the
country is already divided enough so this is not the time
given our economic and military situations.

I wonder if he wants a spot somewhere with Obama.
Did anyone hear or read about this?
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Old 10-19-2008, 03:52 PM
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He stated he did not like the way McCain's campaign had
adopted negativity. A bit naive. Any party behind starts
to bring out the irrelevant mud.

Change is coming??
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Old 10-19-2008, 03:58 PM
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Wouldn't it be funny if when Ms. PussyGalore goes back to Alaska the airport welcoming committee has placards saying---"Change is Coming."
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