Most "talented" horse since....?

What single horse do you feel was/is the most TALENTED horse in the last 25 years since we were blessed with all-time greats Seattle Slew and Spectacular Bid?

I, for one, am only 27 and have only been able to keep up with every day racing since the mid-90s, but i am a historian and have seen footage and tread about all of the greats, especially most of the best horses within the last 30 years....

I've never seen a horse that was more talented and had more upside than Bernardini.....jury is still out on him simply because he has onlt run 5 times and his greatestness will be measured by his accomplished success, but I still think he is the most talented route horse I've ever seen since following racing....As a student of the game, I've found weaknesses in many of the great Thoroughbreds we've all seen run over the last quarter century, but I sure haven't found one yet with this horse....he appears to be as close to perfect as they come...

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

What single horse do you feel was/is the most TALENTED horse in the last 25 years since we were blessed with all-time greats Seattle Slew and Spectacular Bid?

I, for one, am only 27 and have only been able to keep up with every day racing since the mid-90s, but i am a historian and have seen footage and tread about all of the greats, especially most of the best horses within the last 30 years....

I've never seen a horse that was more talented and had more upside than Bernardini.....jury is still out on him simply because he has onlt run 5 times and his greatestness will be measured by his accomplished success, but I still think he is the most talented route horse I've ever seen since following racing....As a student of the game, I've found weaknesses in many of the great Thoroughbreds we've all seen run over the last quarter century, but I sure haven't found one yet with this horse....he appears to be as close to perfect as they come...

This is a loaded question. Talent is subjective. Who was more "talented"?

hmmmmmm....

Mizzen Mast, Dubai Millenium, Fusaichi Pegasus, Street Cry, Ghostzapper, Holy bull, Dancing Brave, Alysheba, Easy Goer...

To name a few

[Damascus '67]

Swale was tremendous, but his career was way too short.

Originally Posted by dalakhani

This is a loaded question. Talent is subjective. Who was more "talented"?

hmmmmmm....

Mizzen Mast, Dubai Millenium, Fusaichi Pegasus, Street Cry, Ghostzapper, Holy bull, Dancing Brave, Alysheba, Easy Goer...

To name a few

Of course, threads and chat forums are mostly all opinionated.....I asked for everybodys opinion on whon they believe the most talented horse they've seen in the last 25 years.....the great thing is that nobody is right and nobody is wrong -- its not about that.......just list one horse you believed was superiorly talented over any other horse you have seen run in the last 25 years....not a big deal and there is no correct answer here...

[Gander]

Okay back to the thread's title. While I am very partial to Skip Away, I would say Ghostzapper (even though I was mad he didnt run more) had more talent than anyone else during this time.

Wouldnt shock me if Bernardini is the next great thing.

Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing

What single horse do you feel was/is the most TALENTED horse in the last 25 years since we were blessed with all-time greats Seattle Slew and Spectacular Bid?

I, for one, am only 27 and have only been able to keep up with every day racing since the mid-90s, but i am a historian and have seen footage and tread about all of the greats, especially most of the best horses within the last 30 years....

I've never seen a horse that was more talented and had more upside than Bernardini.....jury is still out on him simply because he has onlt run 5 times and his greatestness will be measured by his accomplished success, but I still think he is the most talented route horse I've ever seen since following racing....As a student of the game, I've found weaknesses in many of the great Thoroughbreds we've all seen run over the last quarter century, but I sure haven't found one yet with this horse....he appears to be as close to perfect as they come...

Joel now I agree with you. WHen phrased like this I will agree that Bernadini may be the most talented horse since Bid. I mean he has to be. Look what he has accomplished with that incompetent dwarf training him!! Imagine if a real trainer had him!!!!

Originally Posted by oracle80

Joel now I agree with you. WHen phrased like this I will agree that Bernadini may be the most talented horse since Bid. I mean he has to be. Look what he has accomplished with that incompetent dwarf training him!! Imagine if a real trainer had him!!!!

That 5K is burning at you. Look at it this way, now there is a carryover of over 50K, if you hit the pick 6 Wednesday your little incompetent dwarf will become the greatest thing since Secretariat, because you will have his horse to thank for the carryover.

Originally Posted by boldruler

That 5K is burning at you. Look at it this way, now there is a carryover of over 50K, if you hit the pick 6 Wednesday your little incompetent dwarf will become the greatest thing since Secretariat, because you will have his horse to thank for the carryover.

I want something bad to happen to him and will hope very hard that it does(like a photo finish loss that breaks his heart and costs him a champion or big purse) it would be fitting payback for what he did yesterday.

Originally Posted by oracle80

I want something bad to happen to him and will hope very hard that it does(like a photo finish loss that breaks his heart and costs him a champion or big purse) it would be fitting payback for what he did yesterday.

Well you have a big race yourself in 17-18 days and right now WLA is likely one of the favorites. Just pray for a dry track.

Originally Posted by boldruler

Well you have a big race yourself in 17-18 days and right now WLA is likely one of the favorites. Just pray for a dry track.

Well you see Rick is a master at bringing horses over to the track that are ready to run. When his horses lose you don't walk away feeling that you got cheated by an imcompetent moron who doesnt even know how fit his own horses are. Losing with guys like Rick and todd is a lot easier to take because you know they did all they could.

[irishtrekker]

Add Cigar into that mix, too. I don't disagree that Bernardini is one of the most impressive in recent memory (I'm 25).

[Gander]

I agree about Bernardini. I know it may be very fashionable and maybe a bit early to declare him so wonderfully special, but he just may be at least the next coming of Ghostzapper. I like the way he moves.

Sorry, cant use Spectacular Bid or Secretariat, as I was only a "little dwarf" when those 2 monsters were running. I will use Ghostzapper instead.

[westcoastinvader]

[quote=Cunningham Racing]What single horse do you feel was/is the most TALENTED horse in the last 25 years since we were blessed with all-time greats Seattle Slew and Spectacular Bid?



Just want to give you young whippersnappers some historical perspective on Seattle Slew's reputation at the time he was running.

He had many naysayers and non-believers as he was going towards his undefeated Triple Crown winner status.

In fact, I would believe that even his passionate admirers felt he had perhaps benefited by good setups, a soft schedule and lots of racing luck. I went out of my way to go to Baltimore for The Preakness, and New York for The Belmont in 1977. But even for me, as much as I wanted him to win, I felt down deep he shouldn't be considered in the same breath with Secretariat.

That's why, years later, I am so very happy that Seattle Slew and his offspring have done well in producing a line of talented runners.

It's an ongoing vindication for Seattle Slew of how good he really was.

When people today are discussing all the variable of whether a current horse is truly talented, I always like to drift back to the talk I heard from "knowledgeable" horse people back in 1977.