English Channel ducking the big boys??

zippyneedsawin · #1 08-02-2006, 11:00 PM

This outta fire up GPK!

Seriously though, I can understand why they're keeping him at the Spa.

http://drf.com/news/article/77094.html

GPK · #2 08-02-2006, 11:05 PM

Makes a ton of sense, really...I like him staying stretched out..

GPK · #3 08-02-2006, 11:07 PM

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Makes a ton of sense, really...I like him staying stretched out..

Pletcher is the best for a reason...I question nothing he does.

zippyneedsawin · #4 08-02-2006, 11:12 PM

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Pletcher is the best for a reason...I question nothing he does.

I agree.. I'm kinda glad EC and Cacique can go their seperate ways for now.

GPK · #5 08-02-2006, 11:13 PM

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I agree.. I'm kinda glad EC and Cacique can go their seperate ways for now.

me too....would love to now see Cacique win the Million and just flatter EC even more.

zippyneedsawin · #6 08-02-2006, 11:14 PM

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me too....would love to now see Cacique win the Million and just flatter EC even more.

Me too!

randallscott35 · #7 08-02-2006, 11:16 PM

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me too....would love to now see Cacique win the Million and just flatter EC even more.

Kev, Cacique has only finished 2nd to him, yes twice but once with a load of traffic trouble. EC finished off the board in the Manhatten. Jury is out on who is better.

#8 08-03-2006, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin

This outta fire up GPK!

Seriously though, I can understand why they're keeping him at the Spa.

http://drf.com/news/article/77094.html

Zippy thats really an inaccurate take on the situation. Its a long year and EC will still have the Turf Classic and the BC Turf to run in. The Arlington Million is a great race, but when it was conceived there was no Breeders Cup. It was the Breeders Cup before the Cup was invented. A brilliant creation which brought Euros to our country to face our very best for a lot of money. Its created spectacular finishes and awesome races. The problem is that the race is a real gut-wrencher. Having to ship there and face not only the great American horses but the Euros as well has caused more than one horse to bounce the rest of the year.
EC is already a grade one winner. By keeping him at home and not having to ship to face a hard field, they won't wring him out and save some horse for the two biggies that follow. Its just an excellent move in management by a trainer who manages his horses and plots things as well as anyone. To get to a goal, you define the goal and work BACKWARDS in planning, not forwards. Obviosly they are working backwards from the BC Turf and trying to get him there with the best possible chance of winning. Todd's the sharpest knife in the drawer, that i can assure you.

zippyneedsawin · #9 08-04-2006, 12:21 PM

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Zippy thats really an inaccurate take on the situation. Its a long year and EC will still have the Turf Classic and the BC Turf to run in. The Arlington Million is a great race, but when it was conceived there was no Breeders Cup. It was the Breeders Cup before the Cup was invented. A brilliant creation which brought Euros to our country to face our very best for a lot of money. Its created spectacular finishes and awesome races. The problem is that the race is a real gut-wrencher. Having to ship there and face not only the great American horses but the Euros as well has caused more than one horse to bounce the rest of the year.
EC is already a grade one winner. By keeping him at home and not having to ship to face a hard field, they won't wring him out and save some horse for the two biggies that follow. Its just an excellent move in management by a trainer who manages his horses and plots things as well as anyone. To get to a goal, you define the goal and work BACKWARDS in planning, not forwards. Obviosly they are working backwards from the BC Turf and trying to get him there with the best possible chance of winning. Todd's the sharpest knife in the drawer, that i can assure you.

Sigh... O-Man.. you really need to pick on the sarcasm a littlehere.. GPK got it. I was poking fun at him because I know how much he loves EC.. of course it's a good move.. I just used the term "ducking" to fire him up.

GPK · #10 08-03-2006, 08:55 AM

"The Secretariat was a hard race to gauge," Pletcher said. "He was on the lead, and he doesn't prefer that. He ran okay, it just wasn't his best race, and makes you wonder if you need to try that again."

Humm....someone has been saying that since that race was over last year.....

dr. fager · #11 08-03-2006, 08:58 AM

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"The Secretariat was a hard race to gauge," Pletcher said. "He was on the lead, and he doesn't prefer that. He ran okay, it just wasn't his best race, and makes you wonder if you need to try that again."

Humm....someone has been saying that since that race was over last year.....

You just had surgery, quit patting yourself on the back you may hurt it again

GPK · #12 08-03-2006, 09:06 AM

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You just had surgery, quit patting yourself on the back you may hurt it again

only way I am gonna hurt my back is by putting my foot up your ass....SIDEWAYS.

Gander · #13 08-03-2006, 09:00 AM

I am very excited English Channel stays here. Should be the premier race of the meet (in my opinion). Even if the rest of the card isnt all that great, you still have simulcasting from the big day at Arlington. I'm looking forward to next Saturday.

Gander · #14 08-03-2006, 09:01 AM

You just had surgery, quit patting yourself on the back you may hurt it again

LOL! Kev still claims hes the biggest Surf Cat fan on here. How soon he forgets who knew and loved Surf Cat since his very first start!

dr. fager · #15 08-03-2006, 09:02 AM

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You just had surgery, quit patting yourself on the back you may hurt it again

LOL! Kev still claims hes the biggest Surf Cat fan on here. How soon he forgets who knew and loved Surf Cat since his very first start!

I've been around long enough to know the truth!

You used to love Cosmos Mariner too...is he still running, saw him win at the Big A in the late winter.

Gander · #16 08-03-2006, 09:05 AM

Last I knew Cosmos Mariner was running in New Jersey. He kind of faded from my favorite list. It use to be kind of a joke between Scuds and I. He never was really up there with my gal Butterface or my son Gander.

#17 08-03-2006, 09:47 AM

Matchup? More like a slaughter.

GPK · #18 08-03-2006, 09:05 AM

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You just had surgery, quit patting yourself on the back you may hurt it again

LOL! Kev still claims hes the biggest Surf Cat fan on here. How soon he forgets who knew and loved Surf Cat since his very first start!

Oh no Timmy...I know you claim Surf Cat. I read about him before you told me about him, but the day he won last year when you and I talked, that was the first time I had spoken to anyone about him.

Can I claim Proud Tower Too, since I was the one that said single him at 22-1 in his stakes bedut??

Gander · #19 08-03-2006, 09:10 AM

We can share Surf Cat, but Proud Tower Too is all you buddy. We both should have had win money the day after Christmas. I dont want to think about him. That day was all speed. Uggggh.

You own rights to English Channel. Heck of a horse.

I have Butterface (LOL, who else wants her!).

GPK · #20 08-03-2006, 09:16 AM

Anxious to see how EVER A FRIEND stacks up today. I don't if he has the early speed to go with the great AHS, but with a well timed run, Bejerano may be able to work some magic with him.