Islam and the weapon of deception

timmgirvan · #1 12-28-2008, 11:53 AM

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-taqiyya.htm

Before you characters get all tight in your shorts, you should take a breath and read this piece. You should have questions about a "religious system" that advocates lying and stealth in daily activities of its' faithful!
I don't make this stuff up.

This post was brought about largely due to latest fighting in Middle East.
Try to keep the personal attacks to a minimum,please.

AeWingnut · #2 12-28-2008, 06:48 PM

eh, they don't corner the market on lying to non-believers

whenever someone feels compelled to tell me they are Christian I hold on to my wallet and watch my back

if you have to tell people you are

most likely you aren't

timmgirvan · #3 12-28-2008, 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

eh, they don't corner the market on lying to non-believers

whenever someone feels compelled to tell me they are Christian I hold on to my wallet and watch my back

if you have to tell people you are

most likely you aren't

Interesting point you bring up, but I daresay the US need not fear a violent attack from Christians.

brianwspencer · #4 12-28-2008, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Interesting point you bring up, but I daresay the US need not fear a violent attack from Christians.

Well come on Tim, when will anyone find to time to plan one when they're so busy taking rights away from other people?!

Aka, boooooooooooooooooring.

AeWingnut · #5 12-28-2008, 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Well come on Tim, when will anyone find to time to plan one when they're so busy taking rights away from other people?!

Aka, boooooooooooooooooring.

on the rights question

which islamic country has more rights than this western country

at least as far as women and a few other "groups"

I honestly haven't heard of them

when I am governor of Illinois I will fail to recognize the rights of people that want to take away the rights of people

#6 12-28-2008, 11:33 PM

This thread sucks.

brianwspencer · #7 12-29-2008, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by AeWingnut

on the rights question

which islamic country has more rights than this western country

at least as far as women and a few other "groups"

I honestly haven't heard of them

when I am governor of Illinois I will fail to recognize the rights of people that want to take away the rights of people

None. Since they don't have any rights to take away is why they have all this extra time on their hands to plan violent attacks...that's sort of the joke I was making, that Christians don't have time to plan for such attacks when they're so busy with other things.

GBBob · #8 12-28-2008, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Interesting point you bring up, but I daresay the US need not fear a violent attack from Christians.

Unless you run a Planned Parenthood clinic

#9 12-28-2008, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob

Unless you run a Planned Parenthood clinic

And these are not even Christians in a desperate situation.
Make em starve, poor, and without rights and just imagine what
they take up besides bombing Abortion Clinics.

johnny pinwheel · #10 01-22-2009, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pgardn

And these are not even Christians in a desperate situation.
Make em starve, poor, and without rights and just imagine what
they take up besides bombing Abortion Clinics.

great point, look at how scared they are. i'll probably get hit by lightning twice before i die in a terrorist attack. yet , the sheep were practically hiding under beds. this is how the government munipulates us. scare the cowards enough and they will agree to anything. being former military i am quite sure that these fools can never conquer us, whether they lie or not, who cares? whos listening anyway? people here are so whipped up with fear they'll give up their rights and thats just pathetic. these so called "christians", i use the term loosly are so fickle it makes me sick. God never promised you safety or some kind of utopia(until you die and are resurected). the world is and always will be dangerous, they should actually read the Bible before they cower in their closets.

steve · #11 12-28-2008, 08:16 PM

are you a correspondent for FOX News?

timmgirvan · #12 12-28-2008, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by steve

are you a correspondent for FOX News?

Nope.....not a bird on a wire either!

hi_im_god · #13 12-28-2008, 08:21 PM

i'm trying to figure out who is behind that website. they're deliberately opaque.

they have a hard-on for the council on american islamic relations which is a mainstream muslim organization.

and they spend a good deal of effort emphasizing they aren't racist or anti-muslim.

it's an interesting read tim but not for the reasons you think.

timmgirvan · #14 12-28-2008, 08:23 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god

i'm trying to figure out who is behind that website. they're deliberately opaque.

they have a hard-on for the council on american islamic relations which is a mainstream muslim organization.

and they spend a good deal of effort emphasizing they aren't racist or anti-muslim.

it's an interesting read tim but not for the reasons you think.

Well, at least you're thinking about it.

brianwspencer · #15 12-28-2008, 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

I love the source of this "piece". Maybe I'm naive, or just different than other people, because I don't worry about this stuff. I don't have the time to try and make judgements on a religion based on dissecting their "bible" word for word. Isn't walking around being afraid of a violent attack exactly what the terrorists want us to be doing?

All religions have things in them that if taken literally would raise more than a few questions. It just gets old after awhile.

hi_im_god · #16 12-28-2008, 09:00 PM

thereligionofpeace.com is run by a guy named glen reinsford.

he seems to be a standard issue conservative fear monger except for his advocacy of banning muslim immigration to the united states. he relates it to playing russian roulette.

google him and read some of his other articles/interviews. interesting guy.

Danzig · #17 12-30-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Interesting point you bring up, but I daresay the US need not fear a violent attack from Christians.

btw, before 9-11, the deadliest terrorist attack ever on u.s. soil was the bombing in oklahoma city. by a christian. tim mcveigh was raised a roman catholic.

timmgirvan · #18 12-30-2008, 01:11 PM

Yeah...I'm sure McVeigh had Communion just before he drove the truck to the building......weak

Danzig · #19 12-30-2008, 01:31 PM

and like i said above...people will pounce on any and every 'fact' that backs up their beliefs, while completely dismssing anything that doesn't-and you just completely dismissed the fact, that until 9-11, the single deadliest terror attack on american soil was by an american and a christian-not a muslim. and that, dear sir, is what's really weak.

SCUDSBROTHER · #20 01-20-2009, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by timmgirvan

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/011-taqiyya.htm

Before you characters get all tight in your shorts, you should take a breath and read this piece. You should have questions about a "religious system" that advocates lying and stealth in daily activities of its' faithful!
I don't make this stuff up.

Example of a liar Muslim in action:

http://www.dw-world.de/dw/function/0...n-all-1573-rdf

one day later:

http://www.upi.com/Energy_Resources/...0241232464927/