Mock draft theory

[Cannon Shell]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...odd&id=3803148

If you are Bradford and Detroit is thinking of picking you doesnt going out and playing like Pennington to throw them off the scent cross your mind?

And if the kid from Alabama is really going to be the 2nd pick then he was coming out anyway.

[herkhorse]

He could always just pull an Eli Manning.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

He could always just pull an Eli Manning.

aka the horse faced Elway move.

[deltagulf]

Originally Posted by herkhorse

He could always just pull an Eli Manning.

how people forget john elway did it to the colts way back when. told them don't draft me i will not go to baltimore to play football.

[declansharbor]

Originally Posted by deltagulf

how people forget john elway did it to the colts way back when. told them don't draft me i will not go to baltimore to play football.

see post #3

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by deltagulf

how people forget john elway did it to the colts way back when. told them don't draft me i will not go to baltimore to play football.

Yeah but can Bradford play baseball?

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by deltagulf

how people forget john elway did it to the colts way back when. told them don't draft me i will not go to baltimore to play football.

Or how Bo Jackson did the Bucs....just refuse to sign and go back into the draft for the next year. Of course an awesome baseball talent didn't hurt his prospects.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Bigsmc

Or how Bo Jackson did the Bucs....just refuse to sign and go back into the draft for the next year. Of course an awesome baseball talent didn't hurt his prospects.

It was really a shame that he never spent any serious time concentrating on baseball. He may have been an alltime great.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...odd&id=3803148

If you are Bradford and Detroit is thinking of picking you doesnt going out and playing like Pennington to throw them off the scent cross your mind?

And if the kid from Alabama is really going to be the 2nd pick then he was coming out anyway.

early sign from smith, he was coming back for his senior season. here's monday's part of the saga. someone here has to be lying.
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/bi...130.xml&coll=2

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

early sign from smith, he was coming back for his senior season. here's monday's part of the saga. someone here has to be lying.
http://www.al.com/alabamafootball/bi...130.xml&coll=2

darren if he is that good and would be a top 5 pick he would be crazy not to go. I dont believe that he was coming back if he was going to be a top 5 pick, it makes no sense.

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

darren if he is that good and would be a top 5 pick he would be crazy not to go. I dont believe that he was coming back if he was going to be a top 5 pick, it makes no sense.

i don't disagree with you but i heard he was coming back. My Opinion, he should come back. i think he's still abit over-weight and could use another year of strength, conditioning and work on his technique. he lost his whole freshman season to the shula staff.

[SniperSB23]

Oh, and when could the next labor agreement potentially be put in place between the player's union and the owners? Both sides seem to want to curb the amount of money that high draft picks are getting and redistribute it to proven players so that seems something that will surely be implemented in the next labor agreement. If there is any chance that deal could go into effect for next year's draft then you absolutely need to come out now and take the huge payday. Plus when you are #1 one year there is no guarantee you will be the next year. Other QBs could move ahead of him. Remember Leinart? Had he left early and gone #1 as many projected he would instead of Alex Smith then he'd have collected another $10 million in signing bonus plus a lot more over the annual salaries he got the next year as the #10 pick.

[GBBob]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Oh, and when could the next labor agreement potentially be put in place between the player's union and the owners? Both sides seem to want to curb the amount of money that high draft picks are getting and redistribute it to proven players so that seems something that will surely be implemented in the next labor agreement. If there is any chance that deal could go into effect for next year's draft then you absolutely need to come out now and take the huge payday. Plus when you are #1 one year there is no guarantee you will be the next year. Other QBs could move ahead of him. Remember Leinart? Had he left early and gone #1 as many projected he would instead of Alex Smith then he'd have collected another $10 million in signing bonus plus a lot more over the annual salaries he got the next year as the #10 pick.

The owner's opted out of the current agreement so 2011 is the first year there could be a lock-out. Next year is "as is", but 2010 is a little more uncertain. And yes, one of the main reasons they opted out was the disproportionate amount of money going to rookies vs vets

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ddthetide

i don't disagree with you but i heard he was coming back. My Opinion, he should come back. i think he's still abit over-weight and could use another year of strength, conditioning and work on his technique. he lost his whole freshman season to the shula staff.

If he is a top 5 pick he has to go simply because the contract slots for those guys are so big he couldnt risk getting hurt or playing poorly the next season. there is no upside to staying.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...odd&id=3803148

If you are Bradford and Detroit is thinking of picking you doesnt going out and playing like Pennington to throw them off the scent cross your mind?

And if the kid from Alabama is really going to be the 2nd pick then he was coming out anyway.

I think you consider doing an LDS mission and wait for 2010...

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by philcski

I think you consider doing an LDS mission and wait for 2010...

unfortunately there is a good chance Detroit picks number 1 again

[ddthetide]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...odd&id=3803148

If you are Bradford and Detroit is thinking of picking you doesnt going out and playing like Pennington to throw them off the scent cross your mind?

And if the kid from Alabama is really going to be the 2nd pick then he was coming out anyway.

he's only a soph. just stay in school another year. he's now cursed with the heisman. heisman winners don't do well in NCGs or the NFL.

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft0...odd&id=3803148

If you are Bradford and Detroit is thinking of picking you doesnt going out and playing like Pennington to throw them off the scent cross your mind?

And if the kid from Alabama is really going to be the 2nd pick then he was coming out anyway.

Millen is gone and there is nowhere to go but up. Expectations will be low and he won't be expected to do anything until his third season. He gets a stud WR and a second year RB who showed a lot of promise as a rookie averaging 4.1 per attempt for an awful football team. If Bradford has game they will be a decent offense and he can grow into the position as they improve the defense and eventually become a playoff contender by year 3 or 4. It is not a terrible situation to go into by any means.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

Millen is gone and there is nowhere to go but up. Expectations will be low and he won't be expected to do anything until his third season. He gets a stud WR and a second year RB who showed a lot of promise as a rookie averaging 4.1 per attempt for an awful football team. If Bradford has game they will be a decent offense and he can grow into the position as they improve the defense and eventually become a playoff contender by year 3 or 4. It is not a terrible situation to go into by any means.

It is the Lions, it is a terrible situation.

[King Glorious]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

It is the Lions, it is a terrible situation.

Right. Some teams just have a losing culture. The Lions are one of them. The Bengals are another. The Clippers in the NBA. Don't let a successful season or two make you believe otherwise. Millen may be gone but the owner is still there.