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02-03-2009, 09:13 AM
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Weekend Stakes Beyers
Here are the winning Beyer Speed Figures from last week's stakes races:
*King Cotton (OP): Native Ruler (C. Richard/E. Razo Jr.) - 104 *Gulfstream Park Turf (GP): Kip Deville (R. Dutrow Jr./C. Velasquez) - 103 *Donn (GP): Albertus Maximus (K. McLaughlin/A. Garcia) - 101 *Hutcheson (GP): Capt. Candyman Can (I. Wilkes/J. Leparoux) - 100 *Holy Bull (GP): Saratoga Sinner (E. Kenneally/J. Leparoux) - 96 *Santa Monica (SA): Ventura (R. Frankel/G. Gomez) - 96 *Forward Gal (GP): Frolic's Dream (M. Wolfson/J. Bridgmohan) - 94 *Suwannee River (GP): Lady Carlock (C. Nafzger/J. Bridgmohan) - 92 *Wishing Well II (SA): Dawn After Dawn (J. Sadler/R. Bejarano) - 89 *La Habra (SA): Pasar Silbano - Ire (J. Cassidy/M. Smith) - 86 *Dancing Count (Lrl): Russell Road (J. Casey/T. Dunkelberger) - 86 *Manatee (Tam): Rising Fever - Brz (C. Clement/D. Centeno) - 85 *Black Gold (FG): Turfiste (R. Holthus/H. Theriot II) - 85 *Correction (Aqu): Distorted Passion (T. Pletcher/R Maragh) - 83 *Wistful (Aqu): What a Pear (J. Parker/C. Hill) - 79 *California Oaks (GG): Will O Way (V. Cerin/R. Baze) - 77 *Rattlesnake (TuP): Hidden Bounty (B. Hone/W. Dieguez) - 73
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02-03-2009, 01:37 PM
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Anyone happen to know what the Beyer was for Gatorette in the 10th on Sunday? I think me and Phil were guessing high 80s to 90 range. That was the most impressive performance of the weekend to me, especially when you consider Fawkes' record with first time starters.
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02-03-2009, 01:40 PM
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Any info on what Rail Trip got on Friday?
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02-03-2009, 01:43 PM
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99.
If it had been a 110 it would have confirmed your suspicions that he is a super horse. Since it's a 99 it is obviously meaningless.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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02-03-2009, 01:46 PM
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The real horses of the year (1986-2020) Manila, Java Gold, Alysheba, Sunday Silence, Go for Wand, In Excess, Paseana, Kotashaan, Holy Bull, Cigar, Alphabet Soup, Formal Gold, Skip Away, Artax, Tiznow, Point Given, Azeri, Candy Ride, Smarty Jones, Ghostzapper, Invasor, Curlin, Zenyatta, Zenyatta, Goldikova, Havre de Grace, Wise Dan, Wise Dan, California Chrome, American Pharoah, Arrogate, Gun Runner, Accelerate, Maximum Security, Gamine
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02-03-2009, 02:11 PM
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GP MSW/ALW FIGS FROM LAST WEEK
Take the Points 93 Echo in Eternity 79 Brave Victory 95 Elusive Heat 109 Cool Coal Man 106
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02-03-2009, 03:14 PM
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First of all, the speed figures aren't really an opinion. Secondly, you can consider yourself to be the smartest, handsomest, strongest, or whatever you want. Dream on. His opinion on horses, at least, is, in fact, superior to yours.
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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02-03-2009, 01:43 PM
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
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02-03-2009, 06:08 PM
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Ron Thompson   Avatar is Invasor in his stall/Post Classic taken by my trusty cell phone camera.
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02-03-2009, 06:18 PM
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As I explained to God earlier, I only asked the question. I asked because I was curious and wanted to know what it was. Now, if you and God both want to say that my asking the question means that I placed it on a level of importance with world hunger, that's up to you. I simply wanted to know what the number was.
Also, I don't believe that I said I don't place any importance on Beyer figures. You said that, not me. I only said that I don't use the numbers to formulate my opinion.
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02-04-2009, 05:58 AM
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Ron Thompson Avatar is Invasor in his stall/Post Classic taken by my trusty cell phone camera.
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02-03-2009, 06:21 PM
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HOWEVER, let me give you an example of how he's not off base in this case. (Since I'm forced to read his **** by the quoters.) Steve started a thread about Mr. Hot Stuff. When I look at my charts for this horse's races I notice that his most recent effort is REMARKABLY BETTER than his previous ones. This could be attributed to, among other factors: 1) very bad field -- so he ran the same race but it just looks a lot better 2) significant improvement by the horse I don't use figures and while they won't play ANY role in determining how I ultimately evaluate his performance, I, nonetheless, am mildly curious as to whether he earned a better figure than he had previously. Simple as that.
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02-03-2009, 06:25 PM
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Second: 101 Third: 99
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"I guess it comes down to a simple choice, really. Get busy livin' or get busy dyin'."
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02-04-2009, 05:57 AM
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Ron Thompson Avatar is Invasor in his stall/Post Classic taken by my trusty cell phone camera.
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02-03-2009, 01:45 PM
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All ambitions are lawful except those which climb upward on the miseries or credulities of mankind. ~ Joseph Conrad A long habit of not thinking a thing wrong, gives it a superficial appearance of being right. ~ Thomas Paine Don't let anyone tell you that your dreams can't come true. They are only afraid that theirs won't and yours will. ~ Robert Evans
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02-03-2009, 02:07 PM
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02-03-2009, 03:18 PM
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