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Old 02-19-2009, 01:11 PM
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http://www.nypost.com/seven/02192009...fix_155901.htm

apparently, this plan doesn't cover anyone but those who have govt-backed mortgages. Private(commercial)or bank mortgaged loans are not helped much,if at all. So, if you wanted a home mortgage without Federal restraints
you're pretty much left to your own devices for a good solution.
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:08 PM
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Between this pile of crap housing plan and this media handjob of wanting to send more troops to Afghanistan .... Obama's starting to lose me a bit here.

Oh yeah, plus I hated some of the cabinet selections.

But yeah, at least he's not Bush. And at least his VP isn't Palin.
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:10 PM
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Between this pile of crap housing plan and this media handjob of wanting to send more troops to Afghanistan .... Obama's starting to lose me a bit here.

Oh yeah, plus I hated many of cabinet selections.

But yeah, at least he's not Bush. And at least his VP isn't Palin.
DrugS baby..It's the NY Post..that's like picking up the Enquirer to read about the Stock Market
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Old 02-19-2009, 02:27 PM
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I only read them for the racist cartoons.

If I want wall street info ... there's always CNBC ... and speaking of which ... Brother Santelli made a little sense earlier this morning...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEZB4taSEoA
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:39 PM
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I'm really upset at myself for buying a house I could afford. Had I just bought beyond my means I'd be golden right now. As it is, I'm still going to find out if there is anyway I can benefit by it.

Stupid question time, how do I know if my loan is owned or guaranteed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac?
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Old 02-19-2009, 03:43 PM
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I'm really upset at myself for buying a house I could afford. Had I just bought beyond my means I'd be golden right now. As it is, I'm still going to find out if there is anyway I can benefit by it.

Stupid question time, how do I know if my loan is owned or guaranteed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac?
It should be in escrow papers.....who's the lender?
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Old 02-19-2009, 04:04 PM
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I'm really upset at myself for buying a house I could afford. Had I just bought beyond my means I'd be golden right now. As it is, I'm still going to find out if there is anyway I can benefit by it.

Stupid question time, how do I know if my loan is owned or guaranteed by Fannie Mae or Freddie Mac?

i guess that would fit under the 'honesty is its own reward' umbrella.
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:47 PM
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DrugS baby..It's the NY Post..that's like picking up the Enquirer to read about the Stock Market
yeah but Ray Kerrison is great for the horse articles on sunday's , he did an article on handicappers across the country (btw mentioned) and i'm sure he would do an article about steve if someone got in touch with him about the show and the site

they actually have a guy in the business section who is pretty good , John Credule , they get guest columns from Wilbur Ross
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Old 02-19-2009, 05:59 PM
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http://www.nypost.com/seven/02192009...fix_155901.htm

apparently, this plan doesn't cover anyone but those who have govt-backed mortgages. Private(commercial)or bank mortgaged loans are not helped much,if at all. So, if you wanted a home mortgage without Federal restraints
you're pretty much left to your own devices for a good solution.
the part i can't stand- incentives to get bankers to rework loans about to default.. the government (us) will make up part of the difference between the old subprime payments and the new, lower payments the homeowners would have. so, we bail out bad loans, to people who can't afford the loans. then we pay part of their payment-on a house that's lost value.
i'd love to know how this plan will encourage banks not to make more bad loans in future. if they jack up the ARM too much, and the homeowner will default, rework the loan and stick the govt (us!) with the missing money...
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:40 PM
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Banks made bad loans.
And banks also made scandalous loans.
The way they hid the rates from many people
was obscene. I think the loan officers were ex-
car dealers.
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Old 02-19-2009, 07:56 PM
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Banks made bad loans.
And banks also made scandalous loans.
The way they hid the rates from many people
was obscene. I think the loan officers were ex-
car dealers.
The banks are not the only ones to blame here. People need to understand what they can afford and they are not entitled to anything. When I was working as a paralegal in real estate (I'm now in corporate bankruptcy...makes you feel all warm and fuzzy about the economy doesn't it?) I processed significantly more files that had no money down than files that had money down. It's absurd how many people stressed the $1,200 they had to bring for closing costs yet they thought buying a house was the right idea for them?
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:08 PM
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The banks are not the only ones to blame here. People need to understand what they can afford and they are not entitled to anything. When I was working as a paralegal in real estate (I'm now in corporate bankruptcy...makes you feel all warm and fuzzy about the economy doesn't it?) I processed significantly more files that had no money down than files that had money down. It's absurd how many people stressed the $1,200 they had to bring for closing costs yet they thought buying a house was the right idea for them?
No one said they are.

But either are all of the people that got mortages through Banks.
Some Banks and Mortage companies clearly used deceptive practices.
And you clearly know this if you have been following the debacle.

BTW. Why did you process loans when it was clear people
had reservations about the closing costs (ie would have trouble
making the payments)?
There have been an abundance of loan officers that quit or
blew the whistle on their employer when they noticed the type
of loans going down.

Greedy folks living beyond their means on both sides of this story.
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Old 02-19-2009, 08:10 PM
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No one said they are.

But either are all of the people that got mortages through Banks.
Some Banks and Mortage companies clearly used deceptive practices.
And you clearly know this if you have been following the debacle.

BTW. Why did you process loans when it was clear people
had reservations about the closing costs (ie would have trouble
making the payments)?
There have been an abundance of loan officers that quit or
blew the whistle on their employer when they noticed the type
of loans going down.

Greedy folks living beyond their means on both sides of this story.
I was not a loan processor, I was a paralegal.
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