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Old 02-20-2009, 02:07 PM
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Some employees are simply irreplaceable. Take Michelle Obama: The University of Chicago Medical center hired her in 2002 to run "program for community relations,neighborhood outreach, volunteer recruitment, staff diversity and minority contracting." In 2005 the hospital raised her salary from $120,000 to $317,000 - nearly twice what her husband made as a senator. Oh did we mention that her husband had just become a US Senator? He sure had. He requested a $1 million earmark for the UC Medical Center in fact. Way to network Michelle! But now that Mrs Obama has resigned, the hospital says her position will remain unfilled. How can that be, if the work she did was vital enough to be worth $317,000?

We can think of only one explanation: Senator Roland Burris's wife wasn't interested.



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Steve, do you really, honestly believe you are still an independent? Or anything close to resembling one?

I don't really give a sh!t who anyone supports, I just prefer when people who claim they are independent spend equal times denouncing both sides.
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Old 02-22-2009, 07:27 AM
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Steve, do you really, honestly believe you are still an independent? Or anything close to resembling one?

I don't really give a sh!t who anyone supports, I just prefer when people who claim they are independent spend equal times denouncing both sides.
I just think it is funny that liberals continue to shoot the messenger (or blame Bush) rather than be outraged by some basic truths that make the democratic message seem more disingenuous than ever. Naturally you disregard the idea that Obama and his bride could be something less than wonderful people. The fact that the senators wife was given a bs job, then given a huge raise in return for an earmark may not be technically illegal but it does prove once again that Obama's message of 'change' was nothing more than rhetoric or in plain terms bullshit.
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I just think it is funny that liberals continue to shoot the messenger (or blame Bush) rather than be outraged by some basic truths that make the democratic message seem more disingenuous than ever. Naturally you disregard the idea that Obama and his bride could be something less than wonderful people. The fact that the senators wife was given a bs job, then given a huge raise in return for an earmark may not be technically illegal but it does prove once again that Obama's message of 'change' was nothing more than rhetoric or in plain terms bullshit.
And conservatives dont shoot messengers?
I can remember when a certain Army general retired
quickly after saying at least 300,000 troops were
needed in Iraq before the invasion. Rumsfeld figuratively
shot him.

I dont see any diff in the politics played by
conservatives and liberals. I see policy differences,
and fundamental differences about the way the world
works. But I see no difference in the politics.
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And conservatives dont shoot messengers?
I can remember when a certain Army general retired
quickly after saying at least 300,000 troops were
needed in Iraq before the invasion. Rumsfeld figuratively
shot him.

I dont see any diff in the politics played by
conservatives and liberals. I see policy differences,
and fundamental differences about the way the world
works. But I see no difference in the politics.
Sniper will be pleased that you equate his views with those of Rumsfeld.
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:23 AM
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Steve, do you really, honestly believe you are still an independent? Or anything close to resembling one?

I don't really give a sh!t who anyone supports, I just prefer when people who claim they are independent spend equal times denouncing both sides.
I am far more right leaning, always have been and I admit it. However there are numerous things I disagree with both Republicans and Bush. I think our ex Gov a republican should serve every day he was sentenced to behind bars. I think Bush's push for illegals was shameful. I want a woman to have the choice rearding abortion, don't mind if gays marry and want limited gun control. I want less Government both Dem and Rep. I want politicians who lie, cheat and steal to be made examples of not given other jobs.

I've had the advantage/disadvantage to have grown up with all that is Chicago and Illinois politics and know 'change and hope' have nothing to do with this guy unless you want change for your pocket and are 'hooked up' or if you hope this whole stimulus package doesn't bankrupt us once and for all. And this morning I'm listening to Burris blame the media and their sound bites for his problems. To deny Obama had anything to do with Rezko is ludicrous. He sold him the yard he looks at every day until he moved to the White House. Whether anything illegal took place I don't know but for Obama to say he knows him as only a casual acquaintance is not true. Rezko's been moved from MCC and is cooperating. What he has to say we'll see.
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Old 02-22-2009, 09:35 AM
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I am far more right leaning, always have been and I admit it. However there are numerous things I disagree with both Republicans and Bush. I think our ex Gov a republican should serve every day he was sentenced to behind bars. I think Bush's push for illegals was shameful. I want a woman to have the choice rearding abortion, don't mind if gays marry and want limited gun control. I want less Government both Dem and Rep. I want politicians who lie, cheat and steal to be made examples of not given other jobs.
I've had the advantage/disadvantage to have grown up with all that is Chicago and Illinois politics and know 'change and hope' have nothing to do with this guy unless you want change for your pocket and are 'hooked up' or if you hope this whole stimulus package doesn't bankrupt us once and for all. And this morning I'm listening to Burris blame the media and their sound bites for his problems. To deny Obama had anything to do with Rezko is ludicrous. He sold him the yard he looks at every day until he moved to the White House. Whether anything illegal took place I don't know but for Obama to say he knows him as only a casual acquaintance is not true. Rezko's been moved from MCC and is cooperating. What he has to say we'll see.
Like this guy for instance. Punished so severely he gets his job back. Do any of them pay their taxes?

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I am far more right leaning, always have been and I admit it. However there are numerous things I disagree with both Republicans and Bush. I think our ex Gov a republican should serve every day he was sentenced to behind bars. I think Bush's push for illegals was shameful. I want a woman to have the choice rearding abortion, don't mind if gays marry and want limited gun control. I want less Government both Dem and Rep. I want politicians who lie, cheat and steal to be made examples of not given other jobs.

I've had the advantage/disadvantage to have grown up with all that is Chicago and Illinois politics and know 'change and hope' have nothing to do with this guy unless you want change for your pocket and are 'hooked up' or if you hope this whole stimulus package doesn't bankrupt us once and for all. And this morning I'm listening to Burris blame the media and their sound bites for his problems. To deny Obama had anything to do with Rezko is ludicrous. He sold him the yard he looks at every day until he moved to the White House. Whether anything illegal took place I don't know but for Obama to say he knows him as only a casual acquaintance is not true. Rezko's been moved from MCC and is cooperating. What he has to say we'll see.
I've been trying to stay away from your vendetta, but will say this. Obama has never said he had nothing to do with Rezko...It's been known for a long time that he was an early contributor to Obama and did move his land to him at a discount. From that you move to a conspiracy involving I'm not sure what, but something you think is coming. Honest to god...you could put a gun (or whatever is in Timmi's drawer) to my head and I would say that nothing will come of this Rezko/Obama thing. There are a lot of valid policy points that can be argued about what Obama has been proposing, but they are lost when this grassy knoll stuff is out there.

Guilt by association is a fine line, but when you are a young politician, it is very hard to vette each contributor.
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I've been trying to stay away from your vendetta, but will say this. Obama has never said he had nothing to do with Rezko...It's been known for a long time that he was an early contributor to Obama and did move his land to him at a discount. From that you move to a conspiracy involving I'm not sure what, but something you think is coming. Honest to god...you could put a gun (or whatever is in Timmi's drawer) to my head and I would say that nothing will come of this Rezko/Obama thing. There are a lot of valid policy points that can be argued about what Obama has been proposing, but they are lost when this grassy knoll stuff is out there.

Guilt by association is a fine line, but when you are a young politician, it is very hard to vette each contributor.
I think Rezko has more to say than anyone is giving him credit for.

Writing in Human Events, John Batchelor reports on another Alsammarae-Obama-Rezko connection:
“…in April 2005, one month before Mr. Alsammarae left his post, his Ministry of Electricity signed a contract for $50 million with Companion Security to provide training to Iraqis to guard electrical plants by flying them to Illinois for classes.
“Companion Security was headed by a former Chicago policeman with a troubled history, Daniel T. Frawley, in partnership with Mr. Rezko and in association with Daniel Mahru, the lawyer for the original contract and Mr. Rezko's former business partner. In April 2006, Mr. Frawley entered negotiations with Governor Rod Blagojevich's staff to lease a military facility in Illinois to be a training camp. In August 2006, Mr. Frawley started negotiations with Mr. Obama's U.S. Senate staff to complete the contract….
“The timeline of Companion discussions in 2006 is important to note: April 2006 Frawley speaks to governor's office; August 2006 Frawley speaks to senator's office; October 2006 indictment of Rezko revealed; October 2006 Rezko arrested upon return from Syria; October 2006 Alsammarae convicted in Baghdad and makes his first escape attempt; December 2006 Alsammarae escapes from Baghdad. …
“(In 2004) Mr. Auchi traveled by private aircraft to Midway Airport in Chicago and then to a fete at the Four Season Hotel, where he met with his business partner in Chicago real estate, Mr. Rezko, as well as with Illinois Governor Rod Blagojevich. Also present that night, according to a fresh report by James Bone and Dominic Kennedy of the London Times, was State Senator Barack Obama, who had recently won the Democratic primary for the U.S. Senate seat….”

http://74.125.95.132/search?q=cache:...nk&cd=16&gl=us

Now maybe some things were said and done and maybe they weren't but I for one want to know.
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