Is Capt. Candyman's Derby dream over?

Mike · #1 03-01-2009, 02:35 PM

I saw the race, on a blurry screen, but there were no excuses, right?

He just didn't have it

Riot · #2 03-01-2009, 02:41 PM

I think Take the Points Derby trail is over.

#3 03-01-2009, 02:42 PM

He'd have a shot with a different trainer.

jballscalls · #4 03-01-2009, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I saw the race, on a blurry screen, but there were no excuses, right?

He just didn't have it

"Was it over when the germans bombed Pearl Harbor??"--Bluto!

he was close up during that 21 second 2nd quarter, that must have explained his lack of punch

NTamm1215 · #5 03-01-2009, 03:00 PM

Capt. Candyman Can still looks really good....

For the Woody Stephens on Belmont day.

NT

Indian Charlie · #6 03-01-2009, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mike

I saw the race, on a blurry screen, but there were no excuses, right?

He just didn't have it

Did you really think of him as a legitimate derby contender?

the_fat_man · #7 03-01-2009, 03:55 PM

He got his ass kicked. Then again, I'd only want Beethoven out of that race.

NTamm1215 · #8 03-01-2009, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

He got his ass kicked. Then again, I'd only want Beethoven out of that race.

Really?

NT

the_fat_man · #9 03-01-2009, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Really?

NT

Yes

I think the winner, and even the 2nd horse, while they ran, when others didn't, actually got MUCH BETTER setups in the race than Beethoven. In fact, that the runner up leveled off in the stretch is not a positive.

#10 03-01-2009, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Really?

NT

That is interesting.
It appeared to me Joe got off fairly slow rushed up a bit,
settled and found himself a bit too far back requiring a
wide premature move on the turn that had no chance of
catching the winner.
KInd of a jerky effort from joe imo.

Maybe he is a shorter horse. But I did not consider
his run so bad considering that it was fairly uneven.
Almost thought he had to flatten out in the stretch.

Hickory Hill Hoff · #11 03-01-2009, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man

He got his ass kicked. Then again, I'd only want Beethoven out of that race.

For at least 3rd or 4th in the Derby.... that move doesn't win the first Saturday in May.

ateamstupid · #12 03-01-2009, 08:09 PM

Beethoven is Court Vision redux. A slow parasite on dirt that everyone will assume can go 1 1/4 miles because he passes tired horses at shorter distances.

NTamm1215 · #13 03-01-2009, 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Beethoven is Court Vision redux. A slow parasite on dirt that everyone will assume can go 1 1/4 miles because he passes tired horses at shorter distances.

Court Vision is a good comparison. I was going to go with Dollar Bill.

At least Flat Out has already claimed the Jamaican Rum/Lusty Latin title.

NT

the_fat_man · #14 03-01-2009, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Beethoven is Court Vision redux. A slow parasite on dirt that everyone will assume can go 1 1/4 miles because he passes tired horses at shorter distances.

Let's assume that's the case in the FOY (which, actually, it isn't). It's certainly not the case in his other races.

What happened to all the FAST horses in the FOY? Did any finish ahead of him?