Turn em loose!

[Cannon Shell]

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/10/...ef=werecommend

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/03/10/...ef=werecommend

It was just SO important that the first thing Obama could do as president was to give these guys some Rights. And you hear over and over about terrorists that have been released from there are right back in action. Just a story today about some exGitmo is now a powerful Taliban guy.

But Obama giving these guys rights and respect just makes us such a better and safer country, right Ateam?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

It was just SO important that the first thing Obama could do as president was to give these guys some Rights.

But Obama giving these guys rights and respect just makes us such a better and safer country, right Ateam?

If I felt that anything more than 10% of the people we illegally detain were terrorists, I wouldn't care so much. Just because there are unrepentant terrorists means it's justified to be shackling and torturing innocent people and turning more people against us? Keeping secret prisons doesn't make us any safer, it destroys our moral standing and reinforces the idea that we're the bad guys.

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

And you hear over and over about terrorists that have been released from there are right back in action. Just a story today about some exGitmo is now a powerful Taliban guy.

The hell are you talking about? I must have missed this.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If I felt that anything more than 10% of the people we illegally detain were terrorists, I wouldn't care so much. Just because there are unrepentant terrorists means it's justified to be shackling and torturing innocent people and turning more people against us? Keeping secret prisons doesn't make us any safer, it destroys our moral standing and reinforces the idea that we're the bad guys.



The hell are you talking about? I must have missed this.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090310/...tainee_taliban

[SniperSB23]

Originally Posted by Antitrust32

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090310/...tainee_taliban

If I were released from a country that had tortured me I think I'd become a terrorist afterwards against them even if I wasn't one to begin with. That was bad judgement by Bush and nothing to do with Obama's plans for Guantanamo. All Obama's plans mean are that we can no longer detain someone for absolutely no reason and we can no longer torture prisoners.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

If I were released from a country that had tortured me I think I'd become a terrorist afterwards against them even if I wasn't one to begin with. That was bad judgement by Bush and nothing to do with Obama's plans for Guantanamo. All Obama's plans mean are that we can no longer detain someone for absolutely no reason and we can no longer torture prisoners.

Thats ridiculous. So if you are wrongly arrested and thrown into prison it is ok to turn to crime after being released? Nice logic.


How do you or anyone else know why these people were put in there? I mean did you hack into the CIA database? Or are you a Amnesty International junkie.

These are bad people and this is a dirty war. **** happens.

[dellinger63]

Originally Posted by SniperSB23

If I were released from a country that had tortured me I think I'd become a terrorist afterwards against them even if I wasn't one to begin with. That was bad judgement by Bush and nothing to do with Obama's plans for Guantanamo. All Obama's plans mean are that we can no longer detain someone for absolutely no reason and we can no longer torture prisoners.

This is just like Chicago. Get charged as an innocent person do 'bad' time and when you get out you're head of the Gangster Deciples, Vice Lords, Latin Kings or Chicago mob depending on where you grew up. Give me a break this guy didn't need water he needed a late term abortion. We had the bad guy and let him go.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

If I felt that anything more than 10% of the people we illegally detain were terrorists, I wouldn't care so much. Just because there are unrepentant terrorists means it's justified to be shackling and torturing innocent people and turning more people against us? Keeping secret prisons doesn't make us any safer, it destroys our moral standing and reinforces the idea that we're the bad guys.



The hell are you talking about? I must have missed this.

Who said it was illegal? Who says that 10% were or werent terrorists. These arent "innocent people" just dragged off the streets. There is a reason that they are there. Acting as if we are the bad guys is wrong. Guantanamo was and is not a secret prison. Our moral standing? Whose morals are you using as a baseline? As you can see, the moral standing that the prisoners in that prison follow is a not exactly a high standard.

I hate to inform you of this but our morals, standards and rule of law are way higher than the vast majority of the world and laughingly high as compared to our enemies. The problem that you and the ACLU crowd seem to forget is that these people are not Americans nor were taken from American soil and as such arent and shouldnt be covered by domestic laws.

The thought that there are a bunch of railroaded innocents there is crazy.