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Old 04-30-2009, 10:45 AM
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Default Weather forecast getting iffy....

Good chance of soft footing on the turf even if the rains hold off Saturday. Laragh in the 8th tomorrow figures somewhere around even money and there is a reasonable chance that gets moved to the main track where she may have issues...first leg of the P4.
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:49 AM
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I'd be surprised if they started taking stakes off the turf, unless it was a monsoon.
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:53 AM
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YEAH, this isn't NYRA running the show down there.

I applaud them for staying on the turf so far this week, even while their main track is sealed.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:02 PM
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I'd be surprised if they started taking stakes off the turf, unless it was a monsoon.
It can't be more of a monsoon than they had the last two years.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:36 PM
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It can't be more of a monsoon than they had the last two years.
Agreed- thank God for seats under cover last year. I learned my lesson in '07.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:24 PM
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I'd be surprised if they started taking stakes off the turf, unless it was a monsoon.
I think they'll run the G1 stuff on, but I won't be surprised if they save it some for Saturday by taking something off Friday.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:33 PM
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Since many of the starters do not have a start on an off track, any thoughts as to who moves up on an off track?
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Old 04-30-2009, 01:12 PM
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Since many of the starters do not have a start on an off track, any thoughts as to who moves up on an off track?
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Old 04-30-2009, 11:56 AM
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Would the connections risk running Zenyatta on a wet track first time back? Surely, this Grade 2 race would do nothing for her already impressive resume.

I am looking out my office window here in Louisville and I see no break in the clouds.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:00 PM
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Proudinsky doesn't always run his best, but like most German horses, he handles softer turf without a problem, while others get bogged down. If it's yielding or worse, he is a strong contender.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:05 PM
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Would the connections risk running Zenyatta on a wet track first time back? Surely, this Grade 2 race would do nothing for her already impressive resume.

I am looking out my office window here in Louisville and I see no break in the clouds.
When Sheriffs was on Steve's show the other day and was asked about that question he kind of took a "wait and see" approach. If it's muddy, I wouldn't be surprised if she scratched.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:33 PM
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When Sheriffs was on Steve's show the other day and was asked about that question he kind of took a "wait and see" approach. If it's muddy, I wouldn't be surprised if she scratched.
I would not be surprised either. Who can forget Chelokee in the slop last year on Oaks Day or George Washington in the BC Classic 2 years ago.
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Old 04-30-2009, 01:09 PM
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I would not be surprised either. Who can forget Chelokee in the slop last year on Oaks Day or George Washington in the BC Classic 2 years ago.
For the love of God. You sound as ridiculous as Shirreffs does when he mentions what happened to Eight Belles as part of the reason why he doesn't want to run Zenyatta against the boys. As if females can only be injured when racing against males. You are aware that there are PLENTY of occassions where horses run in the slop and don't break down aren't you? You are aware that there are PLENTY of times where horses run on dry dirt and do break down aren't you? Should he not run her if it's hard and dry because, after all, who can forget Ruffian or Go for Wand or Charismatic or Flanders or Old Fashioned or Lion Heart or.......well you get the point.
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Old 04-30-2009, 01:25 PM
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For the love of God. You sound as ridiculous as Shirreffs does when he mentions what happened to Eight Belles as part of the reason why he doesn't want to run Zenyatta against the boys. As if females can only be injured when racing against males. You are aware that there are PLENTY of occassions where horses run in the slop and don't break down aren't you? You are aware that there are PLENTY of times where horses run on dry dirt and do break down aren't you? Should he not run her if it's hard and dry because, after all, who can forget Ruffian or Go for Wand or Charismatic or Flanders or Old Fashioned or Lion Heart or.......well you get the point.
I do get your point. But, if you owned Zenyatta would you run her in a Grade 2 in the slop first time back? I just do not see the logic in it as she is a once in a lifetime horse.
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:58 PM
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Would the connections risk running Zenyatta on a wet track first time back? Surely, this Grade 2 race would do nothing for her already impressive resume.

I am looking out my office window here in Louisville and I see no break in the clouds.
I have been told they would not run.
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Old 04-30-2009, 01:39 PM
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I have been told they would not run.
This decade... Shireffs is 12-for-46 (26% wins) with a $2.21 ROI on off dirt tracks.

And Zenyatta's half sister Balance won a Grade 2 stake by 4 1/2 lengths in her first try over a wet racetrack.

Just throwing that out there in case they do run her ... and if they do run her ... the great Mikey (!) ... he'll still get a pass from even the most deranged of internet jockey bashers if she gets beats... because of the wet track.
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Old 04-30-2009, 02:50 PM
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This decade... Shireffs is 12-for-46 (26% wins) with a $2.21 ROI on off dirt tracks.

And Zenyatta's half sister Balance won a Grade 2 stake by 4 1/2 lengths in her first try over a wet racetrack.

Just throwing that out there in case they do run her ... and if they do run her ... the great Mikey (!) ... he'll still get a pass from even the most deranged of internet jockey bashers if she gets beats... because of the wet track.
I am not saying they should pass just saying thats what I had heard. I am sure there is some real pressure from CD inc to run her.
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I am sure there is some real pressure from CD inc to run her.
What is CD inc gonna do for pressure?

Threaten to not build that bronzed statue of Giacomo they've been promising?
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Old 04-30-2009, 12:35 PM
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Good chance of soft footing on the turf even if the rains hold off Saturday. Laragh in the 8th tomorrow figures somewhere around even money and there is a reasonable chance that gets moved to the main track where she may have issues...first leg of the P4.
Oddly enough she is cross entered in the 8 Belles. Didn't they see enough at the Aqueduct race?

No matter... there are 4-5 in the Edgewood I like better.
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