West Point, McLaughlin split

[NTamm1215]

The end of the Saratoga meet also brought an end to the successful working relationship between Terry Finley's West Point Thoroughbreds and trainer Kiaran McLaughlin.

At the request of McLaughlin, who is seeking to downsize his stable somewhat, West Point has moved 21 horses, splitting them between trainers Tom Albertrani and Mike Hushion. An additional horse, Justwhistledixie, was transferred to Bill Mott. Lewis Lakin, a longtime Mott client, has a 40 percent ownership interest in Justwhistledixie.

McLaughlin said his primary clients, the Maktoum families that run both the Darley and Shadwell outifts, have increased the number of horses they send to him.

"Just trying to get my numbers in order,'' said McLaughlin, who prefers to keep around 120 horses, but was up to 140. "[West Point] is great for the game. They brought a lot of good people into the game. It was a tough decision. We had a lot of nice horses for them and have done well.''

McLaughlin has trained for West Point since 2002 and has won major stakes for the group with the likes of Seattle Fitz, Lear's Princess, Flashy Bull, and Justwhistledixie.

"We wish him the best,'' Finley said of McLaughlin. "He's a great guy. He and his team are top notch.''

Finley said there were several reasons he chose to split up his New York horses between Hushion and Albertrani.

"Both are really good communicators, and get the concept of a partnership model,'' Finley said. "Both I think are world-class horsemen. Put those together and we're very comfortable.''

Among the notable West Point horses, Mr. Fantasy, who is still on the farm, will be going to Hushion while Flat Bold will go to Albertrani.

http://drf.com/news/article/107143.html

NT

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

The end of the Saratoga meet also brought an end to the successful working relationship between Terry Finley's West Point Thoroughbreds and trainer Kiaran McLaughlin.

At the request of McLaughlin, who is seeking to downsize his stable somewhat, West Point has moved 21 horses, splitting them between trainers Tom Albertrani and Mike Hushion. An additional horse, Justwhistledixie, was transferred to Bill Mott. Lewis Lakin, a longtime Mott client, has a 40 percent ownership interest in Justwhistledixie.

McLaughlin said his primary clients, the Maktoum families that run both the Darley and Shadwell outifts, have increased the number of horses they send to him.

"Just trying to get my numbers in order,'' said McLaughlin, who prefers to keep around 120 horses, but was up to 140. "[West Point] is great for the game. They brought a lot of good people into the game. It was a tough decision. We had a lot of nice horses for them and have done well.''

McLaughlin has trained for West Point since 2002 and has won major stakes for the group with the likes of Seattle Fitz, Lear's Princess, Flashy Bull, and Justwhistledixie.

"We wish him the best,'' Finley said of McLaughlin. "He's a great guy. He and his team are top notch.''

Finley said there were several reasons he chose to split up his New York horses between Hushion and Albertrani.

"Both are really good communicators, and get the concept of a partnership model,'' Finley said. "Both I think are world-class horsemen. Put those together and we're very comfortable.''

Among the notable West Point horses, Mr. Fantasy, who is still on the farm, will be going to Hushion while Flat Bold will go to Albertrani.

http://drf.com/news/article/107143.html

NT

first Rick Violette now Kiaran , how long will hushion and albertrani last ?, is terry finley going to get his trainer license next?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by gales0678

first Rick Violette now Kiaran , how long will hushion and albertrani last ?, is terry finley going to get his trainer license next?

Good point, I figured it was worth discussing considering even a trainer who desperately wants to get rid of some stock doesn't ditch an owner who is willing to spend money on horses. There's more to the story.

NT

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by NTamm1215

Good point, I figured it was worth discussing considering even a trainer who desperately wants to get rid of some stock doesn't ditch an owner who is willing to spend money on horses. There's more to the story.

NT

my opinion on this is that the west point horses are put in positions that the trainers do not want to run in (they are aggressivly placed). trainers work for the owners , the owners of west point though many do not have a vote on where the horses are run , that decision is left to the general partner Mr Finley and maybe some close advisors. while terry has been good in bringing new people to the game some of the placement of his horses can be questioned ....some of these horses are placed in on big days when the big crowds will be at the track and the marketing machine can be out in full force to recurit new owners who may be at the track that day , what other marketing tool is as great as having a live horse on a big stakes day to show to poetential clients ....i can't think of any

a key west point employee has left and gone to another stable as well in the last few months (soverign stable)

i'm sure steve could get terry on the show to answer any questions everythng else is pure speculation

[Scav]

Originally Posted by gales0678

my opinion on this is that the west point horses are put in positions that the trainers do not want to run in (they are aggressivly placed). trainers work for the owners , the owners of west point though many do not have a vote on where the horses are run , that decision is left to the general partner Mr Finley and maybe some close advisors. while terry has been good in bringing new people to the game some of the placement of his horses can be questioned ....some of these horses are placed in on big days when the big crowds will be at the track and the marketing machine can be out in full force to recurit new owners who may be at the track that day , what other marketing tool is as great as having a live horse on a big stakes day to show to poetential clients ....i can't think of any

a key west point employee has left and gone to another stable as well in the last few months (soverign stable)

i'm sure steve could get terry on the show to answer any questions everythng else is pure speculation

And I am sure if that ever happened we would hear the god for honest truth

[gales0678]

Originally Posted by Scav

And I am sure if that ever happened we would hear the god for honest truth

steve can ask the tough questions, the listeners can determine if Terry is just blowing smoke or answering them with some sense of the truth

doubt it happens though and not from any lack of effort on steve's part

[Bigsmc]

Originally Posted by Scav

And I am sure if that ever happened we would hear the god for honest truth

Beat me to it.

I'm sure there is more to the story than KMc wanting to downsize, but you're not going to get the rest of the story from either side.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by gales0678

my opinion on this is that the west point horses are put in positions that the trainers do not want to run in (they are aggressivly placed). trainers work for the owners , the owners of west point though many do not have a vote on where the horses are run , that decision is left to the general partner Mr Finley and maybe some close advisors. while terry has been good in bringing new people to the game some of the placement of his horses can be questioned ....some of these horses are placed in on big days when the big crowds will be at the track and the marketing machine can be out in full force to recurit new owners who may be at the track that day , what other marketing tool is as great as having a live horse on a big stakes day to show to poetential clients ....i can't think of any

a key west point employee has left and gone to another stable as well in the last few months (soverign stable)

i'm sure steve could get terry on the show to answer any questions everythng else is pure speculation

I think you're very on point here.

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

hushin is a good choice..

[Scav]

Originally Posted by gales0678

first Rick Violette now Kiaran , how long will hushion and albertrani last ?, is terry finley going to get his trainer license next?

Either that or maybe some pinstripes

It's going to be interesting watching Albertrani run them into the ground.