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Old 09-27-2009, 03:49 PM
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it's funny how relative terms like "right" and "left" are thrown around like they're equivalents all around the globe.

i'd love to see how rush, sean, and the rest of your hero's would react to any american politician advocating the positions of merkel and the free democrats.

and i'd love obama to have the guts to take some of the positions on social issues and economics that are mainstream in germany.

it's a measure of how far out of touch the right in this country is with mainstream political thought that you could even post something like this as if it were a victory for your side.

congrats lol.
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Old 09-27-2009, 04:30 PM
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it's funny how relative terms like "right" and "left" are thrown around like they're equivalents all around the globe.

i'd love to see how rush, sean, and the rest of your hero's would react to any american politician advocating the positions of merkel and the free democrats.

and i'd love obama to have the guts to take some of the positions on social issues and economics that are mainstream in germany.

it's a measure of how far out of touch the right in this country is with mainstream political thought that you could even post something like this as if it were a victory for your side.

congrats lol.
And it is a sign of how ridiclous you are by mentioning
"mythical" positions without giving details. While Germany and the US have many cultural and social differences, the fact is that the fastest growing party in Germany, the Free Democrats, are extremely pro-business and anti-taxes. It is amazing that a genius like you didnt recognize the defeat of the Social Democrats may very well lead to some of those supposed liberal,socialist policies being overturned. What is not amazing is how you and most of the other liberals constantly bring up Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity in every post. At least, with the exception of corrupt USC loving SO, you have stopped simply blaming Bush.

Socialists lose, pro-business party wins. Even a moron from Daily Kos could see that as a victoty for the right way of thinking.
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And it is a sign of how ridiclous you are by mentioning
"mythical" positions without giving details. While Germany and the US have many cultural and social differences, the fact is that the fastest growing party in Germany, the Free Democrats, are extremely pro-business and anti-taxes. It is amazing that a genius like you didnt recognize the defeat of the Social Democrats may very well lead to some of those supposed liberal,socialist policies being overturned. What is not amazing is how you and most of the other liberals constantly bring up Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity in every post. At least, with the exception of corrupt USC loving SO, you have stopped simply blaming Bush.

Socialists lose, pro-business party wins. Even a moron from Daily Kos could see that as a victoty for the right way of thinking.
Someday maybe you can make posts about differences of opinion without personally, directly and deliberately insulting the poster.

But I doubt it.
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Someday maybe you can make posts about differences of opinion without personally, directly and deliberately insulting the poster.

But I doubt it.
I hope not. People who claim to lean one way and have a total different agenda should at least have their inconsistencies brought to other's attention.
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Old 09-27-2009, 10:54 PM
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Someday maybe you can make posts about differences of opinion without personally, directly and deliberately insulting the poster.

But I doubt it.
Since when is calling some one a genius an insult. While I may be insulted at being called a liberal (probably more amused) I doubt that those who consider themselves liberals would take it as such. And saying that someone has a ridiculous take on something is not really an insult. It isnt my fault they have misrepresented the truth or simply said something ....ridiculous. Like your assertion that you are indeed a Republican despite your having posted about 1000 times in a row backing Democratic points of view or knocking the GOP, its members or Fox or anything else that may be considered remotely conservative.
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Since when is calling some one a genius an insult.
Maybe a genius like you can figure that one out.

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While I may be insulted at being called a liberal (probably more amused) I doubt that those who consider themselves liberals would take it as such. And saying that someone has a ridiculous take on something is not really an insult.
Yeah, too bad you didn't do that. You didn't call the opinion ridiculous, you called the poster ridiculous. A genius like you can figure out the difference, right?

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It isnt my fault they have misrepresented the truth or simply said something ....ridiculous. Like your assertion that you are indeed a Republican despite your having posted about 1000 times in a row backing Democratic points of view or knocking the GOP, its members or Fox or anything else that may be considered remotely conservative
And he ends with a personal insult
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Old 09-28-2009, 06:02 PM
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Like your assertion that you are indeed a Republican despite your having posted about 1000 times in a row backing Democratic points of view or knocking the GOP, its members or Fox or anything else that may be considered remotely conservative.
You've posted about 1000 times in a row backing outright Libertarian or even further right points of view. Yet you assert you are a Republican.

And further, you seem to take the position that only your point of view is truely "Republican". Which is silly, as it doesn't match the party platform very well in many aspects.
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Socialists lose, pro-business party wins. Even a moron from Daily Kos could see that as a victoty for the right way of thinking.
The German voters probably just don't want the Turks getting into the E.U. I know that's not all of it, but it's a part of it. Germany has a lot of Turkish workers, and they refuse to assimilate properly. Germans know this. So, it's no wonder they don't want Turkey in the E.U.
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The German voters probably just don't want the Turks getting into the E.U. I know that's not all of it, but it's a part of it. Germany has a lot of Turkish workers, and they refuse to assimilate properly. Germans know this. So, it's no wonder they don't want Turkey in the E.U.
What about Hedu?
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http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000...290190804.html

http://blogs.wsj.com/economics/2009/...kel-coalition/

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125415019392446515.html


Sunday's election outcome nudged Europe's biggest economy to the right but, with the cautious, consensus-seeking Ms. Merkel still in charge, it appeared unlikely to produce a radical lurch in economic policy.

A key plank of Ms. Merkel's campaign was a pledge to offer moderate middle-income tax relief. The Free Democrats want a more radical overhaul of the tax system, cutting both the top and bottom income tax rates considerably.

Mr. Westerwelle said Monday his party would push for a "fair" tax system.

Ms. Merkel said possible tax cuts could be implemented starting in 2011 or 2012, but gave no details of what they might look like. She argues that cuts would stimulate economic growth and ultimately improve tax revenues.


In the midst of its deepest postwar recession, Germany elected a conservative-free market government Sunday. Maybe the reports of capitalism's demise have been premature



The big winner was the pro-business Free Democratic Party, with a record 14.6% of the vote. This will be enough to end what has been an unnatural alliance between the country's two main political rivals and secure a majority for the center-right coalition. It also gives Mrs. Merkel the opportunity to do the tax-cutting and deregulating that she campaigned on four years ago, assuming she still has the courage of those convictions.

The Free Democrats campaigned on a €35 billion tax cut combined with a radical simplification of one of the most complex tax codes in the world. The current rates, which rise gradually from 14% to 45%, would be replaced with three brackets of 15%, 25% and 35%. The proposal has come to be known as the "beer-coaster reform"—as in, you could fit the whole tax return on a beer coaster. The reform would make Germany's tax code among the most competitive and transparent in the industrialized world.



Sounds like Hi im Gods ridiculous contentions are just that, ridiculous

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What about Hedu?
No, they don't get that type of Turk. They get the real village-type Turks. See, Germany had a shortage of men after they got so many of them offed in WW2. So, somebody came up with the idea of bringing poor Turks in to do menial jobs. They realized (pretty quickly) that they made a mistake. The men brought in their families. So, they stopped letting them come to work in Germany in the early 70's. Damage was done, though, because many would import a Turk in to marry. Most of them were pre-arranged by their parents...LOL..About 30 to 40 percent marry a cousin. That's one of the reasons the Muslim World is giving us all this sht (they keep inbreeding with their 1st cousins.) I guess the Prophet Mo married his cousin. So, it must be cool, right? Never mind that birth defects are like 10x more common doing this. The idea of having recessive genes must somehow elude these geniuses. Anyways, that's why the Germans have trouble getting them to learn German (keep getting spouses in from Turkey, and they know no German.) So, they stay in these All-Turk areas of cities (ghettos,) and a lot of them never learn any German. Merkel etc. ain't cool with that, because it keeps them pretty useless (not enough factory jobs for them.) The Turk Prime Minister came to Germany, and told them(Turks in a big theater setting) not to assimilate, and the Germans are pssd. That's why they don't want them in the E.U. That's one of the main reasons they voted the way they did. They know that the Turks don't have the values that the European Union embraces (importance of the individual etc.) The Germans n' French know it's just a case of a relatively poor country trying to get some economic advantage.

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it's a measure of how far out of touch the right in this country is with mainstream political thought that you could even post something like this as if it were a victory for your side.
Geesh, no shiat. America's "liberal" (and Obama isn't even close to being a liberal in the historical American view) is most other industrialized countries "middle-right".

But, remember, in the American "conservative" world, there "are" no other countries other than the US So in the thinking of some, nothing outside our borders matters.
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Geesh, no shiat. America's "liberal" (and Obama isn't even close to being a liberal in the historical American view) is most other industrialized countries "middle-right".

But, remember, in the American "conservative" world, there "are" no other countries other than the US So in the thinking of some, nothing outside our borders matters.
Obama isnt a liberal now? Jesus even Livan isnt this bad.

The bolded part is completely nonscensical.
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Obama isnt a liberal now? Jesus even Livan isnt this bad.

The bolded part is completely nonscensical.
Pat Buchanon ?
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Obama isnt a liberal now? Jesus even Livan isnt this bad.

The bolded part is completely nonscensical.
Obama has never been considered a "liberal", in the US. At best, center left.
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Obama has never been considered a "liberal", in the US. At best, center left.

most liberal senator in the us senate when he was running last year
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This is the best one yet.
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it's funny how relative terms like "right" and "left" are thrown around like they're equivalents all around the globe.

i'd love to see how rush, sean, and the rest of your hero's would react to any american politician advocating the positions of merkel and the free democrats.

and i'd love obama to have the guts to take some of the positions on social issues and economics that are mainstream in germany.

it's a measure of how far out of touch the right in this country is with mainstream political thought that you could even post something like this as if it were a victory for your side.

congrats lol.
The Right in this country may be somewhat out of touch with mainstream political thought but so is the Left. I think the mainstream probably have more comtempt for the far-left than the far-right.
I'm not a big fan of either Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity but I would take them in a second over the champion of the Left. The champion of the left (Gore Vidal) is a certifiable lunatic.
Here is a recent interview with Gore Vidal. This guy is completely out of his mind. Most liberals I know think this guy is some kind of genius. I think anyone that reads this interview will realize what a lunatic this guy is.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l...le6854221.ece#
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The Right in this country may be somewhat out of touch with mainstream political thought but so is the Left. I think the mainstream probably have more comtempt for the far-left than the far-right.
I'm not a big fan of either Rush Limbaugh or Sean Hannity but I would take them in a second over the champion of the Left. The champion of the left (Gore Vidal) is a certifiable lunatic. Here is a recent interview with Gore Vidal. This guy is completely out of his mind. Most liberals I know think this guy is some kind of genius. I think anyone that reads this interview will realize what a lunatic this guy is.

http://women.timesonline.co.uk/tol/l...le6854221.ece#
Really...I thought it was eccentric at worse and brilliant at best. He's obviously past his prime, but there are great anectodes in the article and if you take him seriously, then you missed the point of the article. And since when is Gore Vidal the Champion of the Left? Everyone knows thats Bill Maher...
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