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Old 10-15-2009, 07:35 AM
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Default Dime Supers & Tax Reporting/Withholding (From 10/15 ATR question)

While driving to work this morning I was listening to the replay of yesterday's show and Steve received a question reporting tax reporting on a Dime Superfecta.

It is my understanding that it is reportable (W2-G) if the winnings are greater than $600 and 300 - 1. I read this to mean that if a Dime super pays greater than $600.10 than you would have a reportable transaction. IF the ADW / Track is doing their job correctly they should aggregate ALL identical bets when considering the $600 threshold. Remember that even though the ticket cost > .10 the winning wager only cost .10 when computing the "winnings" on the wager.

The withholdings begin when winning payoffs are greater than $5,000.
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Old 10-15-2009, 08:20 AM
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While driving to work this morning I was listening to the replay of yesterday's show and Steve received a question reporting tax reporting on a Dime Superfecta.

It is my understanding that it is reportable (W2-G) if the winnings are greater than $600 and 300 - 1. I read this to mean that if a Dime super pays greater than $600.10 than you would have a reportable transaction. IF the ADW / Track is doing their job correctly they should aggregate ALL identical bets when considering the $600 threshold. Remember that even though the ticket cost > .10 the winning wager only cost .10 when computing the "winnings" on the wager.

The withholdings begin when winning payoffs are greater than $5,000.
HH,

Thx! And what I found last night after the show has $602.00 as the threshold on a successful .10 superfecta wager... Am going to get clarification today though to be certain.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:32 AM
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This is correct that anything over $601 on a dime super will be an IRS ticket. Also if the dime pays $121 and you have a single ticket for 50 cents(5 dimes) it will be an IRS ticket. Always get the dime supers in single dime tickets, then punch it multi times to avoid the IRS.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:33 AM
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This is correct that anything over $601 on a dime super will be an IRS ticket. Also if the dime pays $121 and you have a single ticket for 50 cents(5 dimes) it will be an IRS ticket. Always get the dime supers in single dime tickets, then punch it multi times to avoid the IRS.
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:42 AM
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I've also noticed that if you have a set of tickets on some ADWs that totals an amount that's taxable then you are now being given a W-2. For example, if you have a Pick 4 that pays $340 for $1 but you have it 3 times then you are being given a W-2G for $1020. Perhaps this was going on for a while and my poor wagering kept me from learning it!

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Old 10-15-2009, 09:54 AM
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I've also noticed that if you have a set of tickets on some ADWs that totals an amount that's taxable then you are now being given a W-2. For example, if you have a Pick 4 that pays $340 for $1 but you have it 3 times then you are being given a W-2G for $1020. Perhaps this was going on for a while and my poor wagering kept me from learning it!

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as most know, here in AZ we cant bet online so its off to the track or the many OTBs we have here. this gives us the chance to bet without someone,like a ADW, to do this.
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Old 10-15-2009, 11:07 AM
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I've also noticed that if you have a set of tickets on some ADWs that totals an amount that's taxable then you are now being given a W-2. For example, if you have a Pick 4 that pays $340 for $1 but you have it 3 times then you are being given a W-2G for $1020. Perhaps this was going on for a while and my poor wagering kept me from learning it!

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you're right. don't cash them together at a track either, or they can give you a W2-G too.

best way to avoid is to punch multiple tickets for min bet and cash them seperately (easier to do at the track).
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Old 10-15-2009, 09:41 AM
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This is correct that anything over $601 on a dime super will be an IRS ticket. Also if the dime pays $121 and you have a single ticket for 50 cents(5 dimes) it will be an IRS ticket. Always get the dime supers in single dime tickets, then punch it multi times to avoid the IRS.
Steve Crist in 'Exotic Betting' also makes it very clear to buy the lowest denomination possible when betting any multirace wager or take advantage of .50 cent tri's and .10 supers when possible and get multiple tickets.
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