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![]() The stewards have fined four riders for whip violations on Wednesday evening's program.
Chantal Sutherland has been fined $1,200 for excessive use of the whip, as the stewards ruled she had struck her mount, Indian Apple Is, four times in succession in the late stages of her half-length victory in the Ruling Angel Stakes. Indian Apple Is earned $69,000, and the rules call for Sutherland to forfeit 20 percent of her 10-percent share of the winner's purse, excluding the $9,000 Ontario-sired bonus. Luis Contreras was fined $200 for striking his mount, Nine Miracles, under the belly throughout the stretch run en route to her nose win in the eighth and final race. Gerry Olguin has appealed a $300 fine and a one-day suspension for striking his mount, Cape Schanck, more than three times in succession during the stretch run of the eighth race. The ruling by the stewards marked Olguin's second offense under the recently imposed guidelines. Cape Schanck finished third, beaten a nose and a head. While I am sure that there will plenty of disagreement, isn't it a detriment to the game to punish jockeys that are winning close races (i.e. trying really hard to win)??? They are already using the soft whips. Any discouragment to winning without clearly doing anything dramatically bad seems like a bad idea to me. Thoughts? |
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![]() Sounds like a great place for the Breeders Cup.
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![]() As an owner I obviously want all the purse money I can get - I expect a jockey to ride my horse in the manner that will get the horse to give its maximum effort. I don't want the jockey beating the cr*p out of my horse if the horse is totally gassed and finishing up the track but the jock damn well better keep trying if he think the horse can get up there and score us a better check.
This would worry me if stewards starting make a habit out of this... And I've hit myself with the whip to see what it felt like, it makes a nice *pop* noise and has a little sting to it but it's not bad - certainly not bad for a 1,000 pound animal.
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![]() Also as an owner, I want maximum effort on behalf of the rider to maximize my profits while not abusing my horse.
It's getting to the point why I wonder why I risk my hard earned money and why I bother being an owner....... |
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![]() If it were up to me, there would be no DQ's when it comes to the wagering money of the public. Subsequent fines, purse DQs would still occur, but not until the race has long been made official as posted.
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Speaking of this race, Jamie Theriot at it again almost taking out James Graham, someone is going to this dude into the rail soon.... |
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But, in my opinion, the penalty for poor race riding and infractions should not fall on the wagering public. I would chalk a bump up to bad racing luck. |
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![]() [quote=Scav]So a horse like the 1 in the 3rd today at Keeneland shouldn't have been taken down? That horse most definitely cost the 3 2nd place and they did the right thing.
Speaking of this race, Jamie Theriot at it again almost taking out James Graham, someone is going to this dude into the rail soon....[/QUOTE] My thoughts exactly!!!!!! And ET came to mind! Maybe a pool cue across the head will keep it a 'private jockey matter'. Christ, Chris Emigh is undefeated w/1 KO maybe a 'handicap match is in order' Theriot needs a new career not days.......
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As for the "infractions" at Woodbine... pathetic. Chantal got a $1200 fine for that?!? I saw the race and she was TRYING TO WIN!!! The whips they're using don't even hurt!
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For example ... How is DQing a horse, who knocked his rival out of the gate, from first place to last fair to bettors? It's not like placing him last rewards those who bet on the horse who was knocked out of the gate. Instead, it penalizes those who picked the winner and rewards those who bet the second best horse to win. I would rather them leave it be, then penalize the horse/owner/trainer/jockey later on via purse $ and official placement. But in terms of the wagering, leave it alone. |
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![]() I was watching All Access or whatever its called on the NFL Network and they devoted a whole session to botched or questionable calls from the past weekend with the NLF's VP of Refereeing (interesting title).
Anyway, he completely explained, showed, investigated and shared why certain calls were made etc. And, surprisingly, he admitted when calls were wrong. Transparency works. Racing should follow suit. |
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![]() Or find stewards that dont bet the races themselves. I know its illegal, but how hard can it be to find someone to place a bet for you? Its very far fetched to think this doesnt go on.
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