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11-01-2009, 11:45 PM
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Football Hall of Fame- Yes or No
Because of the possibility of career ending injuries at any point, can look at it either as "if their career ended tomorrow" or "projected to a reasonable length career"
QB's Brett Favre Tom Brady Peyton Manning Drew Brees Kurt Warner Donovan McNabb Ben Rothlisberger Carson Palmer RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit LaDanian Tomlinson Adrian Peterson WR's/TE's Randy Moss Hines Ward Steve Smith (CAR of course) Wes Welker Larry Fitzgerald Anquan Boldin Chad "Ochocinco" Reggie Wayne Terrell Owens Andre Johnson Donald Driver Torry Holt TJ Houshmanzadeh Tony Gonzalez Antonio Gates
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11-01-2009, 11:53 PM
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11-02-2009, 12:57 AM
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I somewhat agree with Rush Limbaugh on McNabb.
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11-02-2009, 12:24 PM
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McNabb - 203 TDs - 91 INTs Aikman - 165 TDs - 141 INTS McNabb blows him away.
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11-02-2009, 12:35 PM
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I'm surprised so many of you think Adrian Peterson is not going to be a lock for Hall of Fame. Obviously, he's not there right now but I thought part of the thread was anticipating whether some of these players would get there down the road.
Peterson has rushed for 3,885 yards through his first 38 games. That's about 800 more than Emmitt Smith rushed for through his first 38 games. He's also scored two more rushing touchdowns than Smith did during that stretch. I think the guy is a certainty for the HOF when his career is done, provided he stays at this pace. NT
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11-02-2009, 06:46 AM
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those are the only ones i feel with absolute certainty will get in. some of the others may, but the more you include, the less meaning 'hall of fame' would have.
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11-02-2009, 08:45 AM
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Rothlisberger is a lock with one more super bowl, one more bike accident, and three more rapes.
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11-02-2009, 11:44 AM
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Also hoping Action Jackson keeps it up so he can be on this list.
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11-02-2009, 11:48 AM
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11-02-2009, 12:55 PM
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Brett Favre - YES Tom Brady - YES Peyton Manning - YES Drew Brees - with 3 more good years Kurt Warner - difficult call but I say yes Donovan McNabb - YES Ben Rothlisberger - has a ways to go but another Super Bowl would make him tough to deny Carson Palmer - not even close yet RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit LaDanian Tomlinson - YES Adrian Peterson - three more great years or five more good ones and he's in WR's/TE's Randy Moss - YES Hines Ward - NO Steve Smith (CAR of course) - NO Wes Welker - NO Larry Fitzgerald - needs 3 more good years Anquan Boldin - NO Chad "Ochocinco" - short on TDs, may still need several more good seasons Reggie Wayne - hasn't done enough and at 31 may never Terrell Owens - YES Andre Johnson - still a long way to go Donald Driver - NO Torry Holt - light on TDs but probably enough yards TJ Houshmanzadeh - NO Tony Gonzalez - YES Antonio Gates - close already, probably 1500 more yards and 7 more TDs and he's a lock
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11-02-2009, 01:04 PM
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I don't see how people can have Terrell Owens as a NO. The guy has 6 less TDs than Ochocinco, Wayne, and Adrian Peterson combined.
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11-02-2009, 01:12 PM
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I only put no cause I hate him as much as I hate anybody. he will get in unless the voters vote based on his attitude.
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11-02-2009, 04:24 PM
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11-02-2009, 04:30 PM
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Randy Moss and Tony Gonzalez are sure things!
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11-03-2009, 08:16 AM
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Wow, just wow. I take it you must put a great emphasis on blocking and playing dirty. How many current offensive lineman do you have going to the hall of fame? 60?
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11-03-2009, 09:49 AM
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Hines Ward and Moss have both been in the NFL since '98.
Over that time ... Hines Ward has played on exactly 0 offenses that have ranked in the top 6 for the year in points scored. Moss has played on 7 different offenses that have ranked in the top 6 in points scored. Including the two highest scoring offenses in NFL history, the '98 Vikings and '07 Patriots ... two teams that went a combined 31-1 in the regular season.. and both with aging defenses that were two or three years past their prime. Still, those were the two best defenses Moss ever had. Moss has 4 different seasons of 15+ touchdown catches. Hines Ward has never had more than 12 TD catches in a season .. and only 3 times in his entire career did he have more than 7 TD catches in a season. Moss is tied for 3rd all-time in playoff TD Catches... even though he's only played in 11 career playoff games. Moss has 0.91 TD catches per game in the postseason. Jery Rice has 0.79 TD catches per game in the post season. Hines Ward has 8 TD catches in 14 playoff games. But hey ... I know ... Hines Ward is obvious a WAY, WAY, WAY better defensive football player than Moss. Hines Ward has played for 7 different defensive units ranked in the top 7 in fewest points allowed in a season. Moss has played for 8 different defensive units that have ranked 18th or worse in points given up. Yep ... he really sucks at playing defense. How are you supposed to win Super Bowl rings when your defense gives up 427 yards to Chris Chandler and Jamal Anderson - and 517 yards to Kerry Collins and Ron Dayne like they did in the '98 and '00 NFC Championship games? And who can forget the Vikes stellar defensive showing in the 2nd round of the '99 playoffs when they gave up a mere 49 points. Don't get me wrong ... I said Ward is probably a hall of famer. But he's not even close to being the reciever Moss is.
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11-02-2009, 07:44 PM
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Brett Favre-easy yes Tom Brady-easy yes Peyton Manning-easy yes Drew Brees-possibly Kurt Warner-easy yes Donovan McNabb-no Ben Rothlisberger-yes without playing another down. Won as many titles as Manning and Favre combined Carson Palmer-no RB's * suprising lack of quantity here, add names as you feel fit LaDanian Tomlinson-easy yes Adrian Peterson-assuming reasonable production for three more seasons, yes WR's/TE's Randy Moss Hines Ward-easy yes Steve Smith (CAR of course)-no Wes Welker-not in this lifetime Larry Fitzgerald-very good chance with a few more seasons of the same Anquan Boldin-no Chad "Ochocinco"-no Reggie Wayne-no Terrell Owens Andre Johnson-yes Donald Driver-no Torry Holt-close but no TJ Houshmanzadeh-no Tony Gonzalez-yes Antonio Gates-yes with a few more good seasons
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11-02-2009, 09:31 PM
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