Oak Tree Early Pick 4

[eajinabi]

The early pick 4 today pays $51.60 based on a dead heat in the last leg. If 4 wins the payoff is $314 and if 6 wins the payoff is $61. I had the 4 and not the 6 but since it was a dead heater, the pick 4 pool is combined and gives me a watered down payoff. That is a stupid rule!!! Oak tree should give the actual payoff for both pick 4s and should eat some of it instead of punishing the players.

[herkhorse]

seriously?

[eajinabi]

I dont see how thats a fair payout. If the 4 was scratched, and if that was a consolation payoff thats fine but he won the race.

[Kasept]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

The early pick 4 today pays $51.60 based on a dead heat in the last leg. If 4 wins the payoff is $314 and if 6 wins the payoff is $61. I had the 4 and not the 6 but since it was a dead heater, the pick 4 pool is combined and gives me a watered down payoff. That is a stupid rule!!! Oak tree should give the actual payoff for both pick 4s and should eat some of it instead of punishing the players.

You were on the right track until blowing the final turn... Splitting the pool with one payoff is indeed unfair. Steven Crist has broached this many times. The pool should be split 50-50 and THEN portioned out based on the number of tickets for each dead heat horse.

If the pool is $10,000 (2 pots of $5,000), and 5 have the longer shot and 20 the shorter price, the 5 tickets should get back $1,000 while the 20 tix should get $250 each. But making the 5 people with a clever opinion get the one-price-fits-all payoff of $400 (25 tix into $10,000) is indeed not right.

[robfla]

Originally Posted by Kasept

You were on the right track until the blowing the final turn... Splitting the pool with one payoff is indeed unfair. Steven Crist has broached this many times. The pool should be split 50-50 and THEN portioned out based on the number of tickets for each dead heat horse.

If the pool is $10,000 (2 pots of $5,000), and 5 have the longer shot and 20 the shorter price, the 5 tickets should get back $1,000 while the 20 tix should get $250 each. But making the 5 people with a clever opinion get the one-price-fits-all payoff of $400 (25 tix into $10,000) is indeed not right.

This comes up often.. reminds me of Turf War and Z Humor in the Dela JP. Now THAT was robbery!!

[joeydb]

Originally Posted by Kasept

You were on the right track until blowing the final turn... Splitting the pool with one payoff is indeed unfair. Steven Crist has broached this many times. The pool should be split 50-50 and THEN portioned out based on the number of tickets for each dead heat horse.

If the pool is $10,000 (2 pots of $5,000), and 5 have the longer shot and 20 the shorter price, the 5 tickets should get back $1,000 while the 20 tix should get $250 each. But making the 5 people with a clever opinion get the one-price-fits-all payoff of $400 (25 tix into $10,000) is indeed not right.

I agree completely Steve. Crist is right since that is how the place and show pools are computed in the first place, so the precedent and logic is there.

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by Kasept

You were on the right track until blowing the final turn... Splitting the pool with one payoff is indeed unfair. Steven Crist has broached this many times. The pool should be split 50-50 and THEN portioned out based on the number of tickets for each dead heat horse.

If the pool is $10,000 (2 pots of $5,000), and 5 have the longer shot and 20 the shorter price, the 5 tickets should get back $1,000 while the 20 tix should get $250 each. But making the 5 people with a clever opinion get the one-price-fits-all payoff of $400 (25 tix into $10,000) is indeed not right.

Easy Byk. You are using way too much common sense for the powers-at-be in this sport.

[3kings]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

That is a stupid rule!!! Oak tree should give the actual payoff for both pick 4s and should eat some of it instead of punishing the players.

I disagree. It should be like a teaser bet with a bookie, if one end ties the ticket is an automatic loser. Let Oak Tree keep the money.






Just kidding of course, but why should the track pay out more money than is in the pool? Steve's scenario makes the most sense.

[eajinabi]

Originally Posted by 3kings

I disagree. It should be like a teaser bet with a bookie, if one end ties the ticket is an automatic loser. Let Oak Tree keep the money.






Just kidding of course, but why should the track pay out more money than is in the pool? Steve's scenario makes the most sense.

Ok fine, do not pay more than it is in the pool but payout 2 seperate pick 4 payoffs as they do with the trifectas, exactas, and supers.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by eajinabi

The early pick 4 today pays $51.60 based on a dead heat in the last leg. If 4 wins the payoff is $314 and if 6 wins the payoff is $61. I had the 4 and not the 6 but since it was a dead heater, the pick 4 pool is combined and gives me a watered down payoff. That is a stupid rule!!! Oak tree should give the actual payoff for both pick 4s and should eat some of it instead of punishing the players.

What do you expect from a country that gives fkn Montana the same number of senators (2) as New York. Then, expects a progressive brotha to get 60% of that rigged pool. If he can't do it, then they say the people don't agree with him.