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Old 11-13-2009, 07:25 PM
gales0678 gales0678 is offline
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Ramon - bad ride in the 7th

Maragh - terrible ride in the last at NY

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can someone help these guys to give better rides? maybe some lessons from Angel in the am's will help
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:30 PM
Gauchos0522 Gauchos0522 is offline
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That's funny, Ramon just passed Angel for 2nd most wins in NY in a year today.
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:33 PM
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That's funny, Ramon just passed Angel for 2nd most wins in NY in a year today.
that doesn't mean anything when you get the best mounts everyday

he should go to angel and learn how to ride better

i don't know which ride was worse , today on JJ's horse or Gio Ponit in the BCC
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:35 PM
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that doesn't mean anything when you get the best mounts everyday

he should go to angel and learn how to ride better

i don't know which ride was worse , today on JJ's horse or Gio Ponit in the BCC
Wrong on both accounts. If you really think that Ramon Dominguez gets the best mounts you don't follow NY racing too closely. He is not the 1st call rider for any of the strongest barns but picks up a lot of 2nd fiddle mounts for some of the better ones. He rides a lot of races, which a lot of the mainstays don't anymore because of their age or feelings about their own prowess as riders.

And for the umpteenth f*ing time, his ride on Gio Ponti was flawless.

NT
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:38 PM
hockey2315 hockey2315 is offline
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Wait what part of the ride on Gio Ponti was bad?
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Old 11-13-2009, 07:40 PM
NTamm1215 NTamm1215 is offline
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Wait what part of the ride on Gio Ponti was bad?
Gales has this half-baked ridiculous idea that the inside was terrible and Ramon should have deliberately tried to move GP outside. He even went so far as to call Dominguez an "inner dirt specialist" even though he won the riding titles at Belmont spring-summer, Saratoga, and the Belmont Fall Championship meet.

It's again worth noting that plenty of horse who were successful raced on the inside on BC Saturday.

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Old 11-13-2009, 07:40 PM
Gauchos0522 Gauchos0522 is offline
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that doesn't mean anything when you get the best mounts everyday

he should go to angel and learn how to ride better

i don't know which ride was worse , today on JJ's horse or Gio Ponit in the BCC
The ride he gave Gio Ponti wins that race 99% of the time if not for a fantastic horse like Zenyatta. You know Smith actually followed Dominguez in that race into the stretch right? I'm not sure what you want these guys to do. They both have been nothing short of spectacular on a daily basis. Ramon gets very good mounts because he is the best there is right now. People said he only would do well at Aqueduct because of the weak colony, and he then went on to dominate at Belmont and Saratoga. You don't have one of the greatest years in NY history as a jockey without being a fantastic rider. Sorry they don't cut it for you.
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Old 11-13-2009, 11:54 PM
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Maragh - terrible ride in the last at NY

both on favorites

can someone help these guys to give better rides? maybe some lessons from Angel in the am's will help
Maragh is going to be a top rider for a long time. I'd guess that his turf ROI is off the charts.

Angel is really doing wonders for JRV these days.
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Old 11-14-2009, 09:36 PM
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Dominguez had me steaming Thursday. In the sixth he's on Khan Of Khans, looked a sure winner with 50 yards to go. no way that horse should have got nipped. 14-1!
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