Democrats in Disarray

[pointman]

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/34783136...s-capitol_hill

Incredible how the Democrats have no idea what to do with the power they have gained, no surprise that many are already running for the hills (i.e. Dodd) and not running for re-election. Here is the next one to go and it can't be soon enough, I just wish Pelosi could have been part of this conversation so she can take herself out with Reid! Talk about out of touch with the American people!

It amazes me that Reid continues to shove this garbage healthcare bill down American's throats when his own constitutiency is making it clear that they are ready to boot him!

[SOREHOOF]

No doubt it's a double standard. Always is. Slimy Harry isn't going anywhere til this term is finished. If Pelosi wasn't forced out for lying about being told by the CIA about waterboarding, then this is nothing. I just think it is frikkin hilarious that he got bit by his own "political correctness" snake for merely speaking his own personal opinion.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

No doubt it's a double standard. Always is. Slimy Harry isn't going anywhere til this term is finished. If Pelosi wasn't forced out for lying about being told by the CIA about waterboarding, then this is nothing. I just think it is frikkin hilarious that he got bit by his own "political correctness" snake for merely speaking his own personal opinion.

The real problem with what he said is the stupidity on two fronts, first for actually thinking something so stupid, second for being stupid enough to actually say it to a reporter. Can't see how it is any different than the Lott situation and the result should be the same.

[SOREHOOF]

Probably more white people pi ss ed off about it than blacks. He lacks common sense. The Dems are the champs at getting away with the same things they pile on the Repubs for, but neither party will ever learn. If Palin said that she'd be done.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by SOREHOOF

If Palin said that she'd be done.

BTW, Palin has today been hired by Fox News.

As a political analyst and commentator.

Unfortunate that Steve Schmidt came out on 60 Minutes last night, and said publically that she has a problem telling the truth, and still does. But I doubt that will affect her FoxNews audience.

Her press release says she's so proud to be part of a "fair and balanced" news station.

There is absolutely no emoticon for what I am thinking about this right now

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

BTW, Palin has today been hired by Fox News.

As a political analyst and commentator.

Unfortunate that Steve Schmidt came out on 60 Minutes last night, and said publically that she has a problem telling the truth, and still does. But I doubt that will affect her FoxNews audience.

Her press release says she's so proud to be part of a "fair and balanced" news station.

There is absolutely no emoticon for what I am thinking about this right now

Analysts and commentators give opinions. Like her or not she is a big name, has a solid base of supporters and will create buzz. Fox is a business and ratings do matter and she will almost certainly help in that area.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by pointman

The real problem with what he said is the stupidity on two fronts, first for actually thinking something so stupid, second for being stupid enough to actually say it to a reporter. Can't see how it is any different than the Lott situation and the result should be the same.

you don't see any difference between a comment on the electability of a black candidate and someone suggesting the u.s. would have been better off electing an avowed segregationist president?

they're the same thing?

i think one reason republican's are so lost when it comes to race is because they might sincerely believe this. reid's comment was stupid. lott's betrayed a lot more than mere stupidity.

[pointman]

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

you don't see any difference between a comment on the electability of a black candidate and someone suggesting the u.s. would have been better off electing an avowed segregationist president?

they're the same thing?

i think one reason republican's are so lost when it comes to race is because they might sincerely believe this. reid's comment was stupid. lott's betrayed a lot more than mere stupidity.

Yes, they are both racist and I condone neither. I don't believe in degrees of racism which by your comments aparently you do. Though, I think if the comments were reversed you would take the position that Reid should resign because Liberals like you only care about your agenda and what furthers it. I think Lott got what he deserved and now Reid should get what he deserves, a kick out the door.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by pointman

Yes, they are both racist and I condone neither. I don't believe in degrees of racism which by your comments aparently you do. Though, I think if the comments were reversed you would take the position that Reid should resign because Liberals like you only care about your agenda and what furthers it. I think Lott got what he deserved and now Reid should get what he deserves, a kick out the door.

lol at harry reid's racism. you can make an arguement that what he said was reverse racism since it assumes that white's still want to vote only for people that look and sound like them. an accurate assessment for many in this county. i guess i'm also a racist for thinking so.

harry reid was a boob for speaking an uncomfortable truth. but it's hardly calling for seperation of the races, a position trent lott seemed to endorse in his comments about strom thurmond.

again. this is why you folks have so much trouble on race. you actually beleive your own propaganda.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

The real problem with what he said is the stupidity on two fronts, first for actually thinking something so stupid, second for being stupid enough to actually say it to a reporter. Can't see how it is any different than the Lott situation and the result should be the same.

What do you think of the chances of Barack Obama, and as black man, will have to be elected? I think because he's light-skinned and talks nice he has a chance.

What do you think of Senator Thurman's position that segregation should have stood in the US, and giving blacks rights have brought us to the disaster place we are now? I think Senator Thurman was right.

[pointman]

You two liberals are really not trying to suggest that Reid's comments are any less racist are you? Do you really believe that a light skinned African-American who talks white is more qualified to be elected than other African-Americans? There are degrees of racism? Just like a liberal to be two faced and defend their man while ready to gorge those who don't agree with their ridiculous philosophies and agendas.

Racist is racist, regardless of degree and we don't need people who think that way in powerful positions making decisions that affect real Americans.

Good luck trying to defend the indefensible. The good news for the rest of the county is that Reid will be out either in weeks or months, personally I am hoping for weeks!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by pointman

You two liberals are really not trying to suggest that Reid's comments are any less racist are you?

Sorry, I'm still a moderate Republican Not all "conservatives" only embrace the ultra-far right mindset. There is a range of political belief. We mods are currently homeless within the GOP, however, as the public GOP doesn't seem to want us right now (notice that the GOP campaign coffers are dangerously empty right now, and draw your own conclusions about what part of the GOP has always financially supported the party .... )

When the question is, specifically, how will a black man get elected, how will THIS black man get elected, how do you not talk about the fact that this guy is indeed black, and his personal characteristics, in light of the history of racism in this country? Are you supposed to not talk about his being black?

What if the question was, "how will this Muslim get elected?". Is saying, "well, he doesn't kneel in his office on his prayer rug facing Mecca multiple times a day, and he doesn't have a Muslim-"sounding" name" - is that racist?

(and btw, we have Muslims elected on a national level)

You seriously cannot see a difference between that and saying you support segregation?

Racism implies one race is superior, or better, than another. Is that thought present in the first statement? In the second?

How about when Glenn Beck said, "The President is a racist" Was that racist? I don't think so. I think it was unsupported factually, thus a stupid thing to say, but not racist.

Michael Steele, RNC Chair, got raked over the coals a bit this past week for saying, "Honest injun" on a talk show. The Native American community went wild, calling that a racist statement. Do you think it was? I don't.

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by pointman

You two liberals are really not trying to suggest that Reid's comments are any less racist are you? Do you really believe that a light skinned African-American who talks white is more qualified to be elected than other African-Americans? There are degrees of racism? Just like a liberal to be two faced and defend their man while ready to gourge those who don't agree with their ridiculous philosophies and agendas.

Racist is racist, regardless of degree and we don't need people who think that way in powerful positions making decisions that affect real Americans.

Good luck trying to defend the indefensible. The good news for the rest of the county is that Reid will be out either in weeks or months, personally I am hoping for weeks!

reid's comment was essentially that white voter's were more likely to vote for obama because he was light skinned and spoke in a way familiar to them. it was impolitic for him to mention to a reporter that we're not ready to elect snoop president.

how is that the same as wishing the last 6 decades of racial progress never happened?

[hoovesupsideyourhead]

Originally Posted by Riot

What do you think of the chances of Barack Obama, and as black man, will have to be elected? I think because he's light-skinned and talks nice he has a chance.

What do you think of Senator Thurman's position that segregation should have stood in the US, and giving blacks rights have brought us to the disaster place we are now? I think Senator Thurman was right.

thank the lord that the taxpayer got him a vacation in the sun..he looks darker now..and more trustworthy?..but ive got to call bs on the ried race comment..if he didnt have the vote on healthcare trump card..jezzy and sharpton would be on him like sharks..it stinks.. and by the way .. none has heard a peep from jessy or jessy jr sence he was involved with blago selling
osamas seat in the sen..hmm