Citizens United v. FEC

[Riot]

Discuss!

[hi_im_god]

it's a free speech issue.

it doesn't matter that one side has a 50000 watt megaphone turned up to 11 and the other side is cupping their hands around their mouth to be heard over the deafening roar.

it's apparently all the same.

if you thought politicians were subservient to special interests before, just wait until they see a few of their own get picked off by $5 million media buys paid for by some industry they pissed off.

[Riot]

Well, Republicans came out against this too, today - until Mitch McConnell got them backed off.

Elections are about to get really, really ugly.

[Honu]

At least it willbe out in the open for everyone to see vs the way it was slipping bills in peoples back pockets.

[dellinger63]

we're a capitalist society, a democracy and not a socialest one. Money talks bullshiat walks.

Evidence Conservative radio is king and Al F. is a senator, failed talk show MC and still a clown!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Honu

At least it willbe out in the open for everyone to see vs the way it was slipping bills in peoples back pockets.

Yeah, but do you really want to see a billion dollars worth of attack ads against a candidate (pick any, it will be both parties) during every single commercial break on TV, radio, internet, for two months before an election?

What about the previous 100 years of Supreme Court interpretation to the contrary? Do you not find it a little upsetting this sudden turnaround, with zero precedent?

Do you feel foreign-owned corporations - let's say a corp owned by Saudi oil - should be allowed to pour billions into unregulated campaign ads, with zero restriction, in an attempt to influence our elections?

[johnny pinwheel]

Originally Posted by Riot

Well, Republicans came out against this too, today - until Mitch McConnell got them backed off.

Elections are about to get really, really ugly.

really? they have not been rigged for decades now? we have a monopoly of power. two heads of the same party- the corporate fascist party. theres no difference between a democrat and a republican. then some moron comes on here and says this is democracy. yeah , the guys that wrote the constitution intended it to be this way-money buys elections, power and individuals mean nothing...give me a break....all this under the guise of free speech. in a way its good because until people get screwed enough they won't wake up. somehow buying election=free speech , now i've heard it all! its funny when the crap hit the fan, ordinary people did not get bail out loans...how come? yet, both parties could not pass it fast enough. forget about elections getting ugly....wait until the day people finally wake up and hit the streets...then it will be truly ugly!

[ArlJim78]

It is a great ruling, and about time.
Let corporations or other groups make their case directly to the people if they want. I would prefer that corporations try to sell the public than buying off congressman with lavish trips and sweetheart deals on this or that behind the scenes. I think this ruling takes a bit of power from congress and will make it easier to take out incumbents.

It might not be pretty, but I'm all for opening things up. As long as the names of the corporations appear clearly on the ads, they shouldn't be able to hide behind some phony name thats just a front and disguises the real funder.

I just assumed that in our Idiocracy future, elections and politicians will resemble Nascar racing events. They will have corporate sponsors, wear the logos, etc. Acceptance speeches will begin with "I'd like to thank the entire Tide-CocaCola team that did such a wonderful job getting out the vote.."
okay only joking about that but I wouldn't bet against it.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

It is a great ruling, and about time. .

That a foreign-owned corporation is equal to an American voter?

That a foreign-owned corporation can now place millions and millions and millions of dollars worth of ads - more than any candidate or party - trying to directly influence the outcome of our elections by addressing voters?

With no brakes?



You are one of the most ultra-conservative, Libertarian people on this list - you are in favor of judicial activism?

[hi_im_god]

Originally Posted by ArlJim78

It is a great ruling, and about time.
Let corporations or other groups make their case directly to the people if they want. I would prefer that corporations try to sell the public than buying off congressman with lavish trips and sweetheart deals on this or that behind the scenes. I think this ruling takes a bit of power from congress and will make it easier to take out incumbents.

It might not be pretty, but I'm all for opening things up. As long as the names of the corporations appear clearly on the ads, they shouldn't be able to hide behind some phony name thats just a front and disguises the real funder.

I just assumed that in our Idiocracy future, elections and politicians will resemble Nascar racing events. They will have corporate sponsors, wear the logos, etc. Acceptance speeches will begin with "I'd like to thank the entire Tide-CocaCola team that did such a wonderful job getting out the vote.."
okay only joking about that but I wouldn't bet against it.

i don't think you're going to see corporate names on the ads. more likely you'll see money funneled through the chamber of commerce or similar organizations.

they already filter the limited pac money through made up names like "americans for a strong economy" instead of "big coal company". why would they treat unlimited corporate cash differently?

[docicu3]

Originally Posted by Riot

Discuss!

I thought this was a thread about a soccer game coming up......

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by docicu3

I thought this was a thread about a soccer game coming up......

Yeah..a soccer match...that's the ticket!