2/6 (GP) Donn H. & GP Turf H. (G1's); Suwanee River S. (G3)

[Kasept]

9th (5:18) Gulfstream Park Turf H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $300,000

1 Le Grand Cru Lezcano J 114 L
2 Yate's Black Cat Desormeaux K J 117 L
3 Court Vision Albarado R J 121 L
4 Never On Sunday (FR) Bravo J 119 FTL
5 Take the Points Prado E S 120 L
6 Adagio (GB) Velasquez C 111 L



10th (5:45) Donn H. (G1)

1 1/8 Miles | Open | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $500,000

1 Kiss the Kid Castro E 117 L
2 You and I Forever Trujillo E 115 L
3 Duke of Mischief Coa E M 117 L
4 Quality Road Velazquez J R 123 L
5 Dry Martini Castellano J J 117 L
6 Past the Point Prado E S 114 L
7 Helsinki Albarado R J 113 L
8 Mambo Meister Desormeaux K J 117 L
9 Dubai Gold Lezcano J 113 L
10 Delightful Kiss Leyva J C 116 L



11th (6:07) Suwannee River S. (G3)

1 1/8 Miles (Turf) | Fillies and Mares | 4 Year Olds And Up Stakes | Purse: $125,000

1 Aaroness Trujillo E 118 L
2 Sweet and Flawless Maragh R 118 L
3 Crawford County Bravo J 118 L
4 Long Approach Desormeaux K J 118 L
5 Cable Garcia Alan 118 L
6 Astrologie (FR) Dominguez R A 122 L
7 Indigo North Prado E S 120 L
8 Lemonette Velasquez C 122 L
9 In My Glory Castanon J L 118 L
10 Good Time Sally Castro E 118 L
11 Tottie (GB) Lezcano J 118 L
12 Lady Shakespeare Velazquez J R 122 L
MTO Miss Match (ARG) Lezcano J 118 L

[RolloTomasi]

That's annoying. Frontrunner Past The Point actually shows up in the Donn, but not Timber Reserve and Le Grand Cru. I thought the latter two would lead to a fast pace and/or hound Quality Road for position.

Instead, QR will likely be in a garden spot behind Past The Point who probably won't go crazy up front.

Meanwhile, in the turf race, is Adagio a rabbit for Court Vision?

[freddymo]

Is there a G1 horse save QRoad in this group? Is there any reason for G1 racing before 3/1 if not 4/1?

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

That's annoying. Frontrunner Past The Point actually shows up in the Donn, but not Timber Reserve and Le Grand Cru. I thought the latter two would lead to a fast pace and/or hound Quality Road for position.

Instead, QR will likely be in a garden spot behind Past The Point who probably won't go crazy up front.

Meanwhile, in the turf race, is Adagio a rabbit for Court Vision?

This seems like the perfect spot for Kent Desormeaux to do something off the wall with Mambo Meister. Quality Road is at his best (and Velazquez is as well) stalking from the outside of a rival, so getting him into position may be difficult. Even with early traffic trouble, if it exists, QR should absolutely man-handle that band of bums.

Court Vision will likely be 2/5 and yes, Adagio is likely a rabbit for him. I think the Chief may have been hustled to run Le Grand Cru there just to get six horses.

NT

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

That's annoying. Frontrunner Past The Point actually shows up in the Donn, but not Timber Reserve and Le Grand Cru. I thought the latter two would lead to a fast pace and/or hound Quality Road for position.

Instead, QR will likely be in a garden spot behind Past The Point who probably won't go crazy up front.

Meanwhile, in the turf race, is Adagio a rabbit for Court Vision?

I think it's even funnier that Past the Point is running in this race a year too late. He would have smothered the field last year.

Kind of like installing a surface a year after everyone else has figured out it sucks.

What will be the odds on Take the Points?

5/2?

[The Bid]

Dedumbeaux is capable of anything. Nothing would surprise me

[Gaining Ground]

if never on sunday has any run left in him, he should be able to handle that field

[VOL JACK]

Originally Posted by The Bid

Dedumbeaux is capable of anything. Nothing would surprise me

He is the worst!

Mott would be a solid 8-10% points better without him.

[ateamstupid]

Take the Points is the luckiest horse who ever lived if he survives this inquiry.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

Take the Points is the luckiest horse who ever lived if he survives this inquiry.

It was like the '84 BC Classic there for a split second.

[ateamstupid]

If Bravo could keep that French nutcase horse straight he would've won it anyway.

[the_fat_man]

This really should be the last straw for Prado. It's gotten to the point where he's a menace out there. He just can't handle these horses like he once did and he's putting others at risk.

Hang it up, Edgar. You've sucked for a while but now you're at the point where you're going to kill someone (or yourself).

[ateamstupid]

Wow. I know he beat nothing, but damn.

[eajinabi]

Finally a real horse in the Handicap division

[johnny pinwheel]

other than the first race against winners the horse has laughed at every field on a fast track!

[tector]

Forget the crappy field, he beat the hell out of the clock all the way around the track.

That may be the best route Beyer we've seen in awhile.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by tector

Forget the crappy field, he beat the hell out of the clock all the way around the track.

That may be the best route Beyer we've seen in awhile.

The race looks freaky fast. I have a huge issue with the whole day. The quarter claimers went the fastest 1 turn mile the filly allowance race won by the ok Mott and the slow Phipps second went faster then the Frankie allowance race where he looked solid beating a solid field in 38 and high change.. I don't pretend to understand Speed figures on anything other then a 101 level but QR mile is 134 and change?

[ateamstupid]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The race looks freaky fast. I have a huge issue with the whole day. The quarter claimers went the fastest 1 turn mile the filly allowance race won by the ok Mott and the slow Phipps second went faster then the Frankie allowance race where he looked solid beating a solid field in 38 and high change.. I don't pretend to understand Speed figures on anything other then a 101 level but QR mile is 134 and change?

I disagree about Frankie's race. He beat Bank the Eight by a length. Bt8 is a decent horse but he's far from a star. Purely guessing, but I say WF comes back with a low-80s Beyer and QR's is between 115-120.

[Gaining Ground]

Originally Posted by freddymo

The race looks freaky fast. I have a huge issue with the whole day. The quarter claimers went the fastest 1 turn mile the filly allowance race won by the ok Mott and the slow Phipps second went faster then the Frankie allowance race where he looked solid beating a solid field in 38 and high change.. I don't pretend to understand Speed figures on anything other then a 101 level but QR mile is 134 and change?

there is no run up for the mile races. i dont think there was anyone solid in the wildcat frankie race, but after that 2nd quarter, it makes sense they came home so slow late.