CBO report on the stimulus

[miraja2]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100223/..._stimulus_jobs

[joeydb]

Bull. It didn't create one job.

They should list the jobs it created: names, zip codes, job title and expected duration.

But all they ever release is some contrived number.

[dalakhani]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Bull. It didn't create one job.

They should list the jobs it created: names, zip codes, job title and expected duration.

But all they ever release is some contrived number.

Come on. Is the number contrived? Absolutely! Its just as contrived as the jobs saved number. There is no arguing that.

At the same time, its a reasonable assumption that some jobs were created. Whether the method for creating those jobs is flawed is debatable, the fact that there were actually jobs created is indisputable.

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by dalakhani

Come on. Is the number contrived? Absolutely! Its just as contrived as the jobs saved number. There is no arguing that.

At the same time, its a reasonable assumption that some jobs were created. Whether the method for creating those jobs is flawed is debatable, the fact that there were actually jobs created is indisputable.

was it worth almost 1 trillion dollars??

I know the bank bailouts were worth it, though it is still tough to see those unethical companies getting so much of our tax money.. but was a 1 trillion dollar stimulus worth it?

[hi_im_god]

the good news for everyone is we'll never know what would have happened absent the stimulus.

you can reap the small benefits of a slow flat recovery while still complaining that everything the government does is wrong.

could those that think everything would have been fine if the government did nothing in the face of a credit crisis point me to an example in history where that was true?

[SOREHOOF]

Originally Posted by AeWingnut

I keep doing the math

200 million jobs cost $756 billion

hell we could all have 3.78 billion dollars

oh wait that only saved jobs

If my job was saved for 2 weeks before I lost it, was it a saved job? Was it counted twice as a saved job? Am I still out of work? Are my children just as hungry? Does anybody really know what time it is?

[Antitrust32]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Bull. It didn't create one job.

They should list the jobs it created: names, zip codes, job title and expected duration.

But all they ever release is some contrived number.

I'm sure it created one job. I'm not sure at all it created 2.1 million jobs.. that seems like bull.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by joeydb

Bull. It didn't create one job.

They should list the jobs it created: names, zip codes, job title and expected duration.

But all they ever release is some contrived number.

Nonsense. Even a bunch of GOP Senators and Congressmen have specifically thanked stimulus funds for creating specific jobs and projects in their states. .gov has that information for you, btw. When a state received $333,000 to do a specific road project that hired 12 people, that's not "bull" or "bogus". This isn't guessing about the future, it's looking back at what actually happened. Is it completely exact down to the penny? Obviously not - and that's the part within the "range" that is given.

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

When a state received $333,000 to do a specific road project that hired 12 people, that's not "bull" or "bogus".

You cant pave a long driveway for $300k

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

You cant pave a long driveway for $300k

Then go look at the GOP Congressional site, and pick out, after they say, "The stimulus didn't create a single job", a few of the specific stimulus projects and specific jobs those same GOP are bragging about bringing home to their states.

Here are some: http://thinkprogress.org/touting-recovery-opposed/

[Cannon Shell]

Originally Posted by Riot

Then go look at the GOP Congressional site, and pick out, after they say, "The stimulus didn't create a single job", a few of the specific stimulus projects and specific jobs those same GOP are bragging about bringing home to their states.

Here are some: http://thinkprogress.org/touting-recovery-opposed/

You seem to not be able to decipher the difference between reality and politics. I guess it makes for conversation...but not good conversation.