Big Cap, Oaks and Kilroe Probables

Kasept · #1 03-01-2010, 10:57 AM

NOTE: Field limited to 14 starters...

Loup Breton, Garrett Gomez, 117
Marsh Side, no rider, 117
Mast Track, David Flores, 117
Neko Bay, Mike Smith, 117
Palladio, no rider, 117
Jeranimo, Rafael Bejarano, 116
Misremembered, Martin Garcia, 116
Delightful Kiss, no rider, 115
Dakota Phone, Victor Espinoza, 114
Eagle Poise, Tyler Baze, 114
Pick Six, Alex Solis, 114
Pool Play, Chantal Sutherland, 114
Tiger’s Rock, David Cohen, 114
St Trinians, Joel Rosario, 113
Massone, Joe Talamo, 113
Acclamation, no rider, 113
Spurrier, no rider, 113
High Court Drama, Michael Baze, 113

SANTA ANITA OAKS PROBABLES

All Due Respect, Garrett Gomez
Blind Luck, Rafael Bejarano
Cozi Rosie, Mike Smith
Crisp, Joel Rosario
Evening Jewel, Victor Espinoza

KILROE MILE PROBABLES

Awesome Gem, David Flores, 117
Battle of Hastings, Tyler Baze, 119
Blue Chagall, no rider, 114
Ever A Friend, Joel Rosario, 118 (2008 Kilroe winner)
Fluke, Joe Talamo, 116
Monzante, Garrett Gomez, 115
Red Alert Day, no rider, 113
The Usual Q.T., Victor Espinoza, 120

freddymo · #2 03-01-2010, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

NOTE: Field limited to 14 starters...

Loup Breton, Garrett Gomez, 117
Marsh Side, no rider, 117
Mast Track, David Flores, 117
Neko Bay, Mike Smith, 117
Palladio, no rider, 117
Jeranimo, Rafael Bejarano, 116
Misremembered, Martin Garcia, 116
Delightful Kiss, no rider, 115
Dakota Phone, Victor Espinoza, 114
Eagle Poise, Tyler Baze, 114
Pick Six, Alex Solis, 114
Pool Play, Chantal Sutherland, 114
Tiger’s Rock, David Cohen, 114
St Trinians, Joel Rosario, 113
Massone, Joe Talamo, 113
Acclamation, no rider, 113
Spurrier, no rider, 113
High Court Drama, Michael Baze, 113.

I thought this thread was going to be another weather related Santa Anita update

MaTH716 · #3 03-01-2010, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

I thought this thread was going to be another weather related Santa Anita update

In due time Freddy, in due time...........

RockHardTen1985 · #4 03-01-2010, 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

I thought this thread was going to be another weather related Santa Anita update

Loup Breton is the best turf horse in America, hands down IMO. I hope he handles this surface, if so he wins for fun.

NTamm1215 · #5 03-01-2010, 12:15 PM

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I hope he handles this surface, if so he wins for fun.

As long as Proudinsky doesn't show up.

NT

RockHardTen1985 · #6 03-01-2010, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

As long as Proudinsky doesn't show up.

NT

Watch the replay.... He ran huge to be that close, the pace was a crawl he made up a ton of groud. I would love to get to bet him over Gio Ponti in the big turf race on Belmont Day.

NTamm1215 · #7 03-01-2010, 12:22 PM

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Watch the replay.... He ran huge to be that close, the pace was a crawl he made up a ton of groud. I would love to get to bet him over Gio Ponti in the big turf race on Belmont Day.

Who knows how Gio Ponti will fare going to Dubai and back but it's safe to say Loup Breton has a lot more to do on the turf to get into his league.

If Battle of Hastings runs well in the Kilroe on Saturday I think he'll beef up the turf division out west as well. Him finding a nose for the wire a bit will help his chances even more.

NT

the_fat_man · #8 03-01-2010, 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985

Watch the replay.... He ran huge to be that close, the pace was a crawl he made up a ton of groud. I would love to get to bet him over Gio Ponti in the big turf race on Belmont Day.

He cut the corner and had dead aim on a horse that was in a drive from midturn and couldn't pass him. Pace or otherwise he HUNG like a rat. He hasn't shown the ability to win in anything other than a favorable setup (i.e. a race that falls apart) to this point. Until he does, he's not a quality animal.

Then again: a high % trainer, a nice Beyer figure, and poor trip handicapping skills make for a healthy ROI.

Sightseek · #9 03-01-2010, 11:10 AM

Will the eventual winner end up being the lowest weighted of all previous winners?

Kasept · #10 03-01-2010, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

Will the eventual winner end up being the lowest weighted of all previous winners?

Not at all. In recent years Milwaukee Brew won with 115 and Martial Law and others with 113...

Hell, Noor beat Citation (132) in 1950 carrying 110. And Stagehand toted 100 (!) in 1938 when he beat Seabiscuit (130).

Sightseek · #11 03-01-2010, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Not at all. In recent years Milwaukee Brew won with 115 and Martial Law and others with 113...

Hell, Noor beat Citation (132) in 1950 carrying 110. And Stagehand toted 100 (!) in 1938 when he beat Seabiscuit (130).

I'm currently reading Dorothy Ours' Man O' War book and finished a book on Saratoga, it's crazy how low the weights were for the lesser horses!

2MinsToPost · #12 03-01-2010, 11:51 AM

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I'm currently reading Dorothy Ours' Man O' War book and finished a book on Saratoga, it's crazy how low the weights were for the lesser horses!

Whats the name and authour on the book on Saratoga, since that is now hands down my favorite place on earth

Arletta · #13 03-01-2010, 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek

I'm currently reading Dorothy Ours' Man O' War book and finished a book on Saratoga, it's crazy how low the weights were for the lesser horses!

Read it a few years back.. Very good book.

Pedigree Ann · #14 03-03-2010, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

Not at all. In recent years Milwaukee Brew won with 115 and Martial Law and others with 113...

Hell, Noor beat Citation (132) in 1950 carrying 110. And Stagehand toted 100 (!) in 1938 when he beat Seabiscuit (130).

Stagehand was a 3yo who looked so good winning the Santa Anita Derby that he was wheeled back a week later in the Big 'Cap. The age allowance for a 3yo racing against his elders in March at 10f is 22 lbs.

freddymo · #15 03-03-2010, 01:35 PM

I heard there is rain in the forecast.. Better cancel now

kgar311 · #16 03-01-2010, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

NOTE: Field limited to 14 starters...

Loup Breton, Garrett Gomez, 117
Marsh Side, no rider, 117
Mast Track, David Flores, 117
Neko Bay, Mike Smith, 117
Palladio, no rider, 117
Jeranimo, Rafael Bejarano, 116
Misremembered, Martin Garcia, 116
Delightful Kiss, no rider, 115
Dakota Phone, Victor Espinoza, 114
Eagle Poise, Tyler Baze, 114
Pick Six, Alex Solis, 114
Pool Play, Chantal Sutherland, 114
Tiger’s Rock, David Cohen, 114
St Trinians, Joel Rosario, 113
Massone, Joe Talamo, 113
Acclamation, no rider, 113
Spurrier, no rider, 113
High Court Drama, Michael Baze, 113.

yawwwwwwwwwwnnnn

Ive only heard of 2 of these hoses before.

AeWingnut · #17 03-01-2010, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by kgar311

yawwwwwwwwwwnnnn

Ive only heard of 2 of these hoses before.

Loup Breton, Garrett Gomez, 117
Marsh Side, no rider, 117
Mast Track, David Flores, 117
Neko Bay, Mike Smith, 117
Palladio, no rider, 117
Jeranimo, Rafael Bejarano, 116
Misremembered, Martin Garcia, 116
Delightful Kiss, no rider, 115
Dakota Phone, Victor Espinoza, 114
Eagle Poise, Tyler Baze, 114
Pick Six, Alex Solis, 114
Pool Play, Chantal Sutherland, 114
Tiger’s Rock, David Cohen, 114
St Trinians, Joel Rosario, 113
Massone, Joe Talamo, 113
Acclamation, no rider, 113
Spurrier, no rider, 113
High Court Drama, Michael Baze, 113.

I've heard of them. Just don't think they are anything to be excited about
but I haven't been excited about anything

The Indomitable DrugS · #18 03-01-2010, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Kasept

NOTE: Field limited to 14 starters...

Loup Breton, Garrett Gomez, 117
Marsh Side, no rider, 117
Mast Track, David Flores, 117
Neko Bay, Mike Smith, 117
Palladio, no rider, 117
Jeranimo, Rafael Bejarano, 116
Misremembered, Martin Garcia, 116
Delightful Kiss, no rider, 115
Dakota Phone, Victor Espinoza, 114
Eagle Poise, Tyler Baze, 114
Pick Six, Alex Solis, 114
Pool Play, Chantal Sutherland, 114
Tiger’s Rock, David Cohen, 114
St Trinians, Joel Rosario, 113
Massone, Joe Talamo, 113
Acclamation, no rider, 113
Spurrier, no rider, 113
High Court Drama, Michael Baze, 113.

If all of those horses try to enter ... St Trinians will be excluded. She doesn't own the tie breaker with Massone.

If I was Bob Baffert - if a probable or two doesn't defect - I'd also enter Richard's Kid and scratch just to keep her out. Baffert also has Misremembered.. and RK was assigned top weight of 121 and was nominated but is going to Dubai.

parsixfarms · #19 03-01-2010, 01:00 PM

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If all of those horses try to enter ... St Trinians will be excluded. She doesn't own the tie breaker with Massone.

I'd have to think that she'll make the field, not that I particularly like her. Her weight on scale is actually 115 or 116, so I'd have to think she would get into the race before all the males weighted at 114.

The Indomitable DrugS · #20 03-01-2010, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by parsixfarms

I'd have to think that she'll make the field, not that I particularly like her. Her weight on scale is actually 115 or 116, so I'd have to think she would get into the race before all the males weighted at 114.

This is what I read in Santa Anita barn notes ....

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Weights are due out Saturday. Total earnings in 2009-10 will be used in determining the preference of horses with equally assigned weights.

If they oversubscribe ... they actually go by females weight on scale instead of weight actually assigned?