Tiznow and Lava Man

Seattleallstar · #1 08-21-2006, 11:02 AM

its wrong to compare the two. Tiznow was in another stratosphere than Lava Man. To compare that they are equals is ridiculous.

LAVA MAN'S DEFEATED FOES

MAGNUM, SUPER FROLIC, PERFECT DRIFT, GOOD REWARD,PREACHINATTHEBAR, ACE BLUE, GIACOMO

TIZNOW'S DEFEATED FOES

GIANTS CAUSEWAY, SAKHEE,BIENAMADO,FU PEG, LEMON DROP KID, CAPTAIN STEVE, ALBERT THE GREAT ,SKIMMING, GENERAL CHALLENGE, GOLDEN MISSILE, APTITUDE, GALILLEO, WOODEN PHONE, CAT THIEF, MACHO UNO, ORIENTATE, BLACK MINNALOUSHE.

PLUS IT WAS DONE AT CHURCHILL AND BELMONT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Seattleallstar · #2 08-21-2006, 11:03 AM

even won in Louisiana

Seattleallstar · #3 08-21-2006, 11:05 AM

also defeated Include

irishtrekker · #4 08-21-2006, 11:06 AM

Dude, chill out.

#5 08-21-2006, 11:07 AM

Tiznow was a marvelous horse who took on all comers and had not only tremenous talent but the heart of a lion. ANyone who didn't love Tiznow should turn in their racing fan badge. He beat em all, and he knocked heads with the best around. I'm sorry but comparing a horse who beat Giants Causeway to one who beats Good reward and Ace Blue is an absolute travesty.

irishtrekker · #6 08-21-2006, 11:10 AM

People are entitled to their own opinions. I don't think they're in the same league, but I don't think there are very many posters making the comparison anyway.

LM swept the big three Cali races this year. He's the first to do so. He's won on dirt and turf, he's won a hell of a lot more races than certain other older horses this year...I'd rather see him run more often and win in Cali than see our HOY be a "champion" who runs all of two or three times.

Why can't we all just agree that it will be fun to see Bernardini, Invasor, LM and a few others hook up at the Breeder's Cup? Regardless of the outcome, it's something to look forward to...

Seattleallstar · #7 08-21-2006, 11:17 AM

But there are some, what happened in Japan and in NY??

LARHAGE · #8 08-21-2006, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by irishtrekker

People are entitled to their own opinions. I don't think they're in the same league, but I don't think there are very many posters making the comparison anyway.

LM swept the big three Cali races this year. He's the first to do so. He's won on dirt and turf, he's won a hell of a lot more races than certain other older horses this year...I'd rather see him run more often and win in Cali than see our HOY be a "champion" who runs all of two or three times.

Why can't we all just agree that it will be fun to see Bernardini, Invasor, LM and a few others hook up at the Breeder's Cup? Regardless of the outcome, it's something to look forward to...

Al this from people who were awarding the gutless Flower Alley horse of the year because he ran second to Saint Liam, a horse dusted in California by a pole!!!

brockguy · #9 08-21-2006, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Tiznow was a marvelous horse who took on all comers and had not only tremenous talent but the heart of a lion. ANyone who didn't love Tiznow should turn in their racing fan badge. He beat em all, and he knocked heads with the best around. I'm sorry but comparing a horse who beat Giants Causeway to one who beats Good reward and Ace Blue is an absolute travesty.

I didnt love Tiznow... if the Euros won those two classics in a row, US racing would never be the same again....

2Hot4TV · #10 08-21-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy

I didnt love Tiznow... if the Euros won those two classics in a row, US racing would never be the same again....

Why? We love a Champion no matter where they come from. Well maybe not from Iran.

Scav · #11 08-21-2006, 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by oracle80

Tiznow was a marvelous horse who took on all comers and had not only tremenous talent but the heart of a lion. ANyone who didn't love Tiznow should turn in their racing fan badge. He beat em all, and he knocked heads with the best around. I'm sorry but comparing a horse who beat Giants Causeway to one who beats Good reward and Ace Blue is an absolute travesty.

Not only that but CAME back on either him or Sakhee, can't remember which one he did that in but he was passed and came back in one of those BC Classics

Danzig · #12 08-21-2006, 06:04 PM

tiz's second was over sakhee, if memory serves, and that year he was having some physical problems, including a troublesome back. wasn't able to really string much together that year, but he showed in his second bcc what he was made of!! tremendous heart in that horse.