Catholic Leadership

[randallscott35]

An oxmoronic title. Resign.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/29/wo...catholics.html

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by randallscott35

An oxmoronic title. Resign.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/03/29/wo...catholics.html

Big Whoops on this one!

[brianwspencer]

It's really unfortunate and more than a little bit maddening, because it seems that they've been more concerned with internal audits and reviews and keeping things out the media than they have been concerned with making sure kids aren't getting sexually abused for years now.

Sigh.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

It's really unfortunate and more than a little bit maddening, because it seems that they've been more concerned with internal audits and reviews and keeping things out the media than they have been concerned with making sure kids aren't getting sexually abused for years now.

Sigh.

At least they should have expelled the offenders instead of moving from one parrish to another. The toll of this decadence is so pervasive that it's a wonder the Catholic church keeps the doors open.

[brianwspencer]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

At least they should have expelled the offenders instead of moving from one parrish to another. The toll of this decadence is so pervasive that it's a wonder the Catholic church keeps the doors open.

That's basically what I'm saying, right. As more light shines into this, it's becoming apparent that not only is abuse rampant, but that TONS of people all the way on up to the Vatican knew about it and did absolutely nothing in order to protect their church rather than kick sex offenders out.

Instead, not only are they permitted to keep their jobs, they're permitted to keep jobs where having close contact with children is a necessary and frequent occurrence.

So essentially they've continued to allow these men to abuse kids, altering those kids' lives permanently for the worse, in the name of their own self-preservation.

It's disgusting.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

So essentially they've continued to allow these men to abuse kids, altering those kids' lives permanently for the worse, in the name of their own self-preservation.

It's disgusting.

Don't you think it's stupid for adults to actually convince themselves that men(with attachments) aren't gunna have sex with something? I don't know what's more weird. The fact that Catholics believe that, or the fact that they think they're actually eating Jesus. If they believe these 1st two, then I guess we shouldn't be surprised that they think prayer can heal these guys of their kiddy-crush. Maybe it is self preservation, but they also convince themselves that these guys can stop by using faith.

[Nascar1966]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

It's really unfortunate and more than a little bit maddening, because it seems that they've been more concerned with internal audits and reviews and keeping things out the media than they have been concerned with making sure kids aren't getting sexually abused for years now.

Sigh.

Do you expect anything more from the Catholic church? Its a shame people haven't had a trial yet. If it was me or you we would of be charged at the minimum, maybe had a trial already.

[AeWingnut]

Originally Posted by brianwspencer

It's really unfortunate and more than a little bit maddening, because it seems that they've been more concerned with internal audits and reviews and keeping things out the media than they have been concerned with making sure kids aren't getting sexually abused for years now.

Sigh.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/episodes/103969

[Danzig]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100628/...n_church_abuse




Vatican admonishes Austrian cardinal for comments

By NICOLE WINFIELD, Associated Press Writer Nicole Winfield, Associated Press Writer – 1 hr 50 mins ago
VATICAN CITY – The Vatican on Monday issued an unprecedented rebuke of a top cardinal who had accused the retired Vatican No. 2 of blocking clerical sex abuse investigations, publicly dressing down a man who had been praised for his criticism of church abuse cover-ups.

The silencing of Cardinal Christoph Schoenborn, the archbishop of Vienna and long considered a papal contender, drew heated criticism from clerical abuse victims. They said the Vatican should be honoring Schoenborn, not publicly humiliating him, for his calls for greater transparency and demands for a crackdown on priests who rape and sodomize children.

Schoenborn has also called for an open discussion of priestly celibacy; views that the Vatican said he "clarified" on Monday during an audience with the pope.

As it admonished Schoenborn, the Vatican appeared caught on the defensive on two other fronts in the ongoing sex abuse scandal: it remained locked in a diplomatic tiff with Belgium over the brazen raid on church offices last week, during which police detained bishops and even opened a crypt in search of church abuse documents. And it bristled at the U.S. Supreme Court decision to let a sex abuse lawsuit in Oregon naming the Holy See go ahead.

Schoenborn had accused the former Vatican secretary of state, Cardinal Angelo Sodano, in April of blocking a church investigation into the late Austrian Cardinal Hans Hermann Groer, who was accused by victims in 1995 of abusing boys at a seminary — a scandal that rocked the Austrian church and cost Groer his job.





"With his words, Benedict professes concern for victims. But by his actions, Benedict shows concern for his colleagues," said David Clohessy, executive director of SNAP, the Survivors Network of those Abused by Priests.

[GBBob]

It's sad when it takes a topic as horrifying as this to bring the Left and Right together.