Saturday Beyers

[Kasept]

Big Drama 104
Pica Slew 101
Jessica is Back 95
Little Drama 93
Coffee Boy 93

Gio Ponti 100
Tahitian Warrior 103

Trappe Shot 105

Blind Luck 94
Pickapocket 92
Trickmeister 95

Awesome Gem TBD
E Z's Gentleman TBD

[hockey2315]

There's something very, very wrong w/ the DEL Beyers.

[letswastemoney]

Big Drama was very impressive. I wish I played that race.

[VOL JACK]

Not that turf Beyers matter but, you can bet your last dollar that they will give a G1 turf race winner at least a 100....no matter what.
See the 2009 Maker's Mark Mile at Kee...that was run in a swamp.

[NTamm1215]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

There's something very, very wrong w/ the DEL Beyers.

Wow, I hadn't looked at the charts yet then did when I read your post. Yeah, pretty sure Blind Luck going 2 second faster than the other two should yield those figures.

NT

[hockey2315]

I really hope Steve or somebody can get to the bottom of this.

[blackthroatedwind]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I really hope Steve or somebody can get to the bottom of this.

You honestly don't get it?

[hockey2315]

I know why they did it, but strongly disagree.

[philcski]

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

You honestly don't get it?

Want to elaborate on why you think they are good numbers?

NVM- already answered

[cmorioles]

Originally Posted by hockey2315

I really hope Steve or somebody can get to the bottom of this.

Here are the raw figures and Beyers of the route races:

R 1 72, 82
R 3 67, 77
R 7 86, 95
R 8 52, 65
R 9 105, 94
R10 83, 92

So, you have the track SLOW 10, SLOW 10, SLOW 9, SLOW 13, FAST 11, SLOW 9.

Beyer would never average the FAST 11 with the others. The average of all the others is SLOW 10. If you use that for the Delaware Oaks, you now give the race a 115 Beyer. Does anyone think that is accurate, or even close?

If you do that, this is what you have:

Blind Luck 115 (previous top 104)
Havre De Grace 115 (83)
Derwin's Star 112 (86)
No Such Word 110 (93)
Worship the Moon 91 (80)
Calypso Queen 76 (65)
Listen In 71 (76)

My guess is the answer lies somewhere in between. I think Havre De Grace probably improved more than a 94 would indicate, but certainly nowhere near a 115. Anybody thinking this race wasn't a MUST break out from the others is delirious or knows nothing about figure making.

[Sightseek]

Originally Posted by Kasept

Big Drama 104
Pica Slew 101
Jessica is Back 95
Little Drama 93

Gio Ponti 100
Tahitian Warrior 103

Trappe Shot 105

Blind Luck 94
Pickapocket 92
Trickmeister 95

Awesome Gem TBD
E Z's Gentleman TBD

FTFY - what a performance by the little brother.

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Sightseek

FTFY - what a performance by the little brother.

by burning roma-i loved burning roma! hoping for good things to come from this guy.

[RolloTomasi]

Originally Posted by Danzig

by burning roma-i loved burning roma! hoping for good things to come from this guy.

I was pissed when that horse didn't run in either the Derby or the Preakness. I think they even had Chris McCarron fly in to ride him in his prep races.