Kerry docks yacht in R.I., avoids $500K in Mass. taxes

[AeWingnut]

or Tax and Spend dem doesn't pay taxes

http://www.seacoastonline.com/articl...4-NEWS-7240324

[Riot]

So you're against citizens using legal methods to avoid paying some taxes?

You appear to think people should go out of their way to pay taxes when they don't have to?

Is that a common Libertarian view? That citizens should pay all the taxes they can?

[Danzig]

you're right riot. the senior senator is setting a fine, fine example by docking his yacht in rhode island. yep, a fine example. why, when i buy my yacht, i may do the same thing.

[Riot]

What's the offense?

Is it just being rich enough to own a yacht? I dunno about you guys, but I admire capitalism and people who make money. And if someone has made enough money to purchase a yacht, if that's what they want, more power to them! Congrats!

Is the offense of legally not paying taxes? I put all the income I can into tax-deferred and non-taxable investment vehicles. To legally avoid paying taxes. I have never bought a car from a guy on Craig's List, so I don't know if I'd declare and pay that state sales tax, or not.

Or is it being both rich and avoiding paying taxes? 'Cause if it's the latter, then that brings us right back to the Bush tax cuts, especially for the wealthiest Americans, including the estate tax, which right now happens to be zero (a good thing that I think should be made permanent, BTW)

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

What's the offense?

Is it just being rich enough to own a yacht? I dunno about you guys, but I admire capitalism and people who make money. And if someone has made enough money to purchase a yacht, if that's what they want, more power to them! Congrats!

Is the offense of legally not paying taxes? I put all the income I can into tax-deferred and non-taxable investment vehicles. To legally avoid paying taxes. I have never bought a car from a guy on Craig's List, so I don't know if I'd declare and pay that state sales tax, or not.

Or is it being both rich and avoiding paying taxes? 'Cause if it's the latter, then that brings us right back to the Bush tax cuts, especially for the wealthiest Americans, including the estate tax, which right now happens to be zero (a good thing that I think should be made permanent, BTW)

broken record...when in doubt, blast the other guy!

[dellinger63]

I see no problem with this unless Kerry expects other Mass citizens to dock in their home State. What isn't stated is the jobs and money lost associated with the upkeep and maintainance of the yacht not to mention the spending done near/off the yacht (strip clubs and restaurants etc.)

States are doing the same with State Income Taxes. It isn't a suprise to me that the highest taxed States are in the worse shape and States with no income tax are at the top.

Say a guy making 5 mil a year in Cal can save 250-300K on taxes by moving to Florida. California loses its tax payment but even more important its productive citizen. Wonder what the average guy who pulls down 5 mil spends in a year?

Besides what a easy way to leave Teresa home.

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

broken record...when in doubt, blast the other guy!

What are you reading? Who is the "other guy" I am "blasting"?

[Danzig]

Originally Posted by Riot

What's the offense?

Is it just being rich enough to own a yacht? I dunno about you guys, but I admire capitalism and people who make money. And if someone has made enough money to purchase a yacht, if that's what they want, more power to them! Congrats!

Is the offense of legally not paying taxes? I put all the income I can into tax-deferred and non-taxable investment vehicles. To legally avoid paying taxes. I have never bought a car from a guy on Craig's List, so I don't know if I'd declare and pay that state sales tax, or not.

Or is it being both rich and avoiding paying taxes? 'Cause if it's the latter, then that brings us right back to the Bush tax cuts, especially for the wealthiest Americans, including the estate tax, which right now happens to be zero (a good thing that I think should be made permanent, BTW)

actually, the buyer was his wife, the widow of mr. heinz of heinz ketchup fame. at any rate, i would rather he fight for his state to have tax laws that make sense, rather than have a law that many follow but many do their best to avoid. if the tax law was one that made sense, he wouldn't have to dock in rhode island, thereby giving a sense of impropriety. and he's not deferring taxes, he's just not paying the sales tax at all in this instance. on a new purchase, not a used purchase on which taxes were paid when said used vehicle was new. there have been cases here in arkansas of people purchasing RV's and tagging them in another state, to avoid paying the one time sales tax to arkansas. they were taken to court and found guilty of tax evasion, as it was shown their home of residence was in fact arkansas, which meant they were engaging in tax evasion. i'd say this is an instance of that. i'd say if this were a republican engaging in this behavior, that you'd be all over it.

[Rileyoriley]

Originally Posted by Danzig

actually, the buyer was his wife, the widow of mr. heinz of heinz ketchup fame. at any rate, i would rather he fight for his state to have tax laws that make sense, rather than have a law that many follow but many do their best to avoid. if the tax law was one that made sense, he wouldn't have to dock in rhode island, thereby giving a sense of impropriety. and he's not deferring taxes, he's just not paying the sales tax at all in this instance. on a new purchase, not a used purchase on which taxes were paid when said used vehicle was new. there have been cases here in arkansas of people purchasing RV's and tagging them in another state, to avoid paying the one time sales tax to arkansas. they were taken to court and found guilty of tax evasion, as it was shown their home of residence was in fact arkansas, which meant they were engaging in tax evasion. i'd say this is an instance of that. i'd say if this were a republican engaging in this behavior, that you'd be all over it.

I'd say you're right!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by Danzig

i'd say if this were a republican engaging in this behavior, that you'd be all over it.

I'd say that no, I am not "all over" behaviour that is legal, and plenty of Republicans also legally avoid taxes.