8/1 (MTH): Haskell (G1), Oceanport & Matchmaker (G3's)

tjfla · #1 07-26-2010, 09:20 PM

IN
Ice Box
Lookin at Lucky
First Dude
Super Saver
Afleet Again
Uptowncharleybrown
Trappe Shot
Our Dark Knight
Concord Point-- Possible

hockey2315 · #2 07-27-2010, 12:57 AM

Does anybody have a prediction for what price Trappe Shot will be? This has the potential to be one of those situations that comes around very rarely.

ateamstupid · #3 07-27-2010, 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Does anybody have a prediction for what price Trappe Shot will be? This has the potential to be one of those situations that comes around very rarely.

Because you like him or because you hate him? It's tough to predict with such a deep field, but my guess would be at least 5-2 with all of the TC horses in. Maybe as high as 4-1 if people go nuts on Lucky.

hockey2315 · #4 07-27-2010, 01:36 AM

Because I like him. I think he'll be much higher than 5-2.

ateamstupid · #5 07-27-2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Because I like him. I think he'll be much higher than 5-2.

He's the buzz horse and the Beyer horse, he won't go off higher than 4-1. I thought you said he was a cripple?

hockey2315 · #6 07-27-2010, 03:07 AM

He was, but it looks like they've got him back together. I think he's by far the most talented in the field and there are four triple crown winners/placers to take a ton of money.

VOL JACK · #7 07-27-2010, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by tjfla

IN
Ice Box
Lookin at Lucky
First Dude
Super Saver
Afleet Again
Uptowncharleybrown
Trappe Shot
Our Dark Knight

Who is IN trained by?

tjfla · #8 07-27-2010, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

Who is IN trained by?

Coupled entry with Ice Box-Guess he is the rabbit

VOL JACK · #9 07-27-2010, 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by hockey2315

Does anybody have a prediction for what price Trappe Shot will be? This has the potential to be one of those situations that comes around very rarely.

I suck at this...but here goes.

Ice Box...............................6-1
Lookin at Lucky...................3-1
First Dude............................10-1
Super Saver.........................6-1
Afleet Again..........................20-1
Uptowncharleybrown............20-1
Trappe Shot..........................5-2
Our Dark Knight....................12-1

RockHardTen1985 · #10 07-27-2010, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I suck at this...but here goes.

Ice Box...............................6-1
Lookin at Lucky...................3-1
First Dude............................10-1
Super Saver.........................6-1
Afleet Again..........................20-1
Uptowncharleybrown............20-1
Trappe Shot..........................5-2
Our Dark Knight....................12-1

NO WAY VJ. Derby winner and runner up 6-1? Trainer by Zito and Todd? NO WAY. Ice Box might be ignored a bit, but Super Saver WILL BE BET.

tjfla · #11 07-27-2010, 10:57 AM

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NO WAY VJ. Derby winner and runner up 6-1? Trainer by Zito and Todd? NO WAY. Ice Box might be ignored a bit, but Super Saver WILL BE BET.

Gotta agree there SS will be bet but unless a horse with early speed enters Ice Box is just gonna be forgot about

Still would be nice to get 2 more horses in this field but who knows?

RockHardTen1985 · #12 07-27-2010, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by tjfla

Gotta agree there SS will be bet but unless a horse with early speed enters Ice Box is just gonna be forgot about

Still would be nice to get 2 more horses in this field but who knows?

Trappe Shot, Super Saver and First Dude all have early speed. I gotta think Our Dark Knight would be on the pace also.

VOL JACK · #13 07-27-2010, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tjfla

Gotta agree there SS will be bet but unless a horse with early speed enters Ice Box is just gonna be forgot about

Still would be nice to get 2 more horses in this field but who knows?

I don't think so.
Everyone know how magical Borel is at CD and, SS stunk up Pimlico.
I wouldn't surprised if the Preakness exacta is repeated here.

RockHardTen1985 · #14 07-27-2010, 11:15 AM

Im saying right now, Lucky wins this race. Baffert has him ready to roll. He wins this and runs huge in the Travers, September 1st he is the clear cut leader in the 3yr old division. A division that is wide open right now.

Sightseek · #15 07-27-2010, 11:23 AM

You just can't fly a horse over the Rockies that often and expect to win the Haskell.

Handicappy · #16 07-27-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK

I suck at this...but here goes.

Ice Box...............................6-1
Lookin at Lucky...................3-1
First Dude............................10-1
Super Saver.........................6-1
Afleet Again..........................20-1
Uptowncharleybrown............20-1
Trappe Shot..........................5-2
Our Dark Knight....................12-1

You don't suck at choosing your Avatar that's for sure. I am anxious to see how Trappe Shot can do against these. It is a very aggressive spotting for a barn that tends to be conservative in placing horses. He certainly could be every bit as good as KMac has been saying.

RockHardTen1985 · #17 07-27-2010, 05:50 PM

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You don't suck at choosing your Avatar that's for sure. I am anxious to see how Trappe Shot can do against these. It is a very aggressive spotting for a barn that tends to be conservative in placing horses. He certainly could be every bit as good as KMac has been saying.

How is it aggressive at all? Im pretty sure he has the top last out beyer and won the local prep. I dont get this comment at all. Not trying to be a dick either, I just think its a super logical spot, they have been conservative enough with him facing FL Breds twice. Its time to see how good he really is.

Handicappy · #18 07-28-2010, 08:08 AM

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How is it aggressive at all? Im pretty sure he has the top last out beyer and won the local prep. I dont get this comment at all. Not trying to be a dick either, I just think its a super logical spot, they have been conservative enough with him facing FL Breds twice. Its time to see how good he really is.

I do agree with you and your not being a dick. The barn is usually very conservative and have been with him up to this point. The Allowance spot a couple back is one of those type of decisions I think. I do like the horse and was glad they didn't rush him as a 2 yr old. I'll be watching that's for sure. I just hope I can get 4/1 on him and the crowd dumps money elsewhere.

tjfla · #19 07-29-2010, 12:42 PM

1. Lookin At Lucky, Bob Baffert, Martin Garcia, 5/2
2. Afleet Again, Robert Reid Jr., Joe Bravo, 12/1
3. Ice Box, Nick Zito, Jose Lezcano, 9/2
4. First Dude, Dale Romans, Kent Desormeaux, 6/1
5. Our Dark Knight, Nick Zito, Elvis Trujillo 15/1
6. Super Saver, Todd Pletcher, Calvin Borel, 3/1
7. Uptowncharlybrown, Kiaran McLaughlin, Rajiv Maragh, 15/1
8. Trappe Shot, Kiaran McLaughlin, Alan Garcia, 3/1

LAL get Lucky #1 Again and seems Pleasant Prince and Concord Point went for easier races in Ohio and WV Derby

VOL JACK · #20 07-27-2010, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Handicappy

You don't suck at choosing your Avatar that's for sure. I am anxious to see how Trappe Shot can do against these. It is a very aggressive spotting for a barn that tends to be conservative in placing horses. He certainly could be every bit as good as KMac has been saying.

Its not aggressive at all.
They have taken the most conservative route they could up to this point in his career.
He was a mortal lock in the Woody Stephens (yes I said so beforehand) and they passed for an Allowance race.