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Old 08-04-2010, 08:42 AM
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Default Missouri Opts Out of Obamacare

My hat's off to MO. Hopefully the Show Me State will show America the way. 3-1 in favor. Well done.


http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/g...25ae6de56.html

Question is when will Obama declare war on his second State?
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Old 08-04-2010, 08:55 AM
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My hat's off to MO. Hopefully the Show Me State will show America the way. 3-1 in favor. Well done.


http://www.stltoday.com/news/local/g...25ae6de56.html

Question is when will Obama declare war on his second State?
he is going to need them in '12 , this will be interesting

if things don't get better Dell , look for Hillary to take a shot in '12

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Old 08-04-2010, 09:30 AM
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Do voters even read what they are voting upon any more?

Or is the voting public truly so readily manipulated, in this case by Missouri insurance companies benefiting from the average voters lack of depth of knowledge regarding the issues, and easily-stimulated to desired action by knee-jerk fears?

The most significant part of this proposition is the following:

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... includes a provision that would change how insurance companies that go out of business in Missouri liquidate their assets.
Well done, Missouri voters - chalk another one up for private business gaining benefits by using voter fear as the cover story and mechanism to gain what they want.
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I don't think the vote will stand if the federal government challenges it, but I really wish it would. Because it would be so awesome, 8 years from now, to read about Missouri whining and wailing how it's not fair that insurance companies don't want to do business in the Show Me State and why doesn't the federal government do something about it?

Seriously, US gov't- you can let Missouri learn from its mistake; s'okay with me. Same for Arizona, Florida and Oklahoma. Sorry for the people who won't have health care, but hey, they can just move someplace else.
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^^^^ Avytar shows Suffy-poo's donkey is still dead.
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Old 08-04-2010, 09:53 AM
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I don't think the vote will stand if the federal government challenges it, but I really wish it would. Because it would be so awesome, 8 years from now, to read about Missouri whining and wailing how it's not fair that insurance companies don't want to do business in the Show Me State and why doesn't the federal government do something about it?

Seriously, US gov't- you can let Missouri learn from its mistake; s'okay with me. Same for Arizona, Florida and Oklahoma. Sorry for the people who won't have health care, but hey, they can just move someplace else.
When you really read the Missouri proposition, it turns out it's mostly just alot of talk, with little true lawful action (except to make bankruptcy better for insurance companies)
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^^^^ Avytar shows Suffy-poo's donkey at early age.
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Do voters even read what they are voting upon any more?

Or is the voting public truly so readily manipulated, in this case by Missouri insurance companies benefiting from the average voters lack of depth of knowledge regarding the issues, and easily-stimulated to desired action by knee-jerk fears?
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yea the whole state or 2/3's of it are stupid and you know all. You may be shocked but many voters still think the private sector does a far better job than the government at virtually everything and even more shocking is many voters are perfectly happy with their current healthcare coverage and don't want to subsidize those who aren't.
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:19 AM
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yea the whole state or 2/3's of it are stupid and you know all. You may be shocked but many voters still think the private sector does a far better job than the government at virtually everything and even more shocking is many voters are perfectly happy with their current healthcare coverage and don't want to subsidize those who aren't.
That's an interesting take, because if the above is one's politics and beliefs, the proposition that the MO voters voted upon doesn't really support or have anything to do with the above in the least.
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Old 08-04-2010, 10:23 AM
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The majority of this country didn't want Obamacare. Not suprising Missouri wants out of it. Im sure many more will try to do what Missouri is doing.
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yea the whole state or 2/3's of it are stupid and you know all. You may be shocked but many voters still think the private sector does a far better job than the government at virtually everything and even more shocking is many voters are perfectly happy with their current healthcare coverage and don't want to subsidize those who aren't.
Setting the health care issue completely aside for a moment, I lived in the state for a number of years and yeah, I'd say at least 2/3 of them are pretty stupid.
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Or is the voting public truly so readily manipulated.
obviously.. I mean look who is president.

Readily and easily manipulated.


(hey its kinda fun to just pick one sentence out of someones post to respond to - no wonder you do it all the time!!)
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obviously.. I mean look who is president.

Readily and easily manipulated.


(hey its kinda fun to just pick one sentence out of someones post to respond to - no wonder you do it all the time!!)
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he is going to need them in '12 , this will be interesting

if things don't get better Dell , look for Hillary to take a shot in '12

roger clinton could do a better job than Gibbs a press secretary
Have already been ridiculed for making such a prediction -

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...hlight=Hillary

Hillary owes nothing to the Democratic party. They readily threw her under the bus when Trick 'Em, Dick 'Em, and Dunk 'Em Teddy endorsed BHO. Bill Clinton's wrath is unassuaged, and Hillary is a buzzard on the fence waiting for the body to stop twitching. Maybe, he'll do the smart thing and decide not to run. He and things have got to improve to save himself if he's looking for a 2nd term.
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Have already been ridiculed for making such a prediction -

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...hlight=Hillary

Hillary owes nothing to the Democratic party. They readily threw her under the bus when Trick 'Em, Dick 'Em, and Dunk 'Em Teddy endorsed BHO. Bill Clinton's wrath is unassuaged, and Hillary is a buzzard on the fence waiting for the body to stop twitching. Maybe, he'll do the smart thing and decide not to run. He and things have got to improve to save himself if he's looking for a 2nd term.

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Old 08-04-2010, 12:28 PM
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Hillary owes nothing to the Democratic party. They readily threw her under the bus when Trick 'Em, Dick 'Em, and Dunk 'Em Teddy endorsed BHO. Bill Clinton's wrath is unassuaged, and Hillary is a buzzard on the fence waiting for the body to stop twitching. Maybe, he'll do the smart thing and decide not to run. He and things have got to improve to save himself if he's looking for a 2nd term.
I already saw Inception.
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Have already been ridiculed for making such a prediction -

http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...hlight=Hillary

Hillary owes nothing to the Democratic party. They readily threw her under the bus when Trick 'Em, Dick 'Em, and Dunk 'Em Teddy endorsed BHO. Bill Clinton's wrath is unassuaged, and Hillary is a buzzard on the fence waiting for the body to stop twitching. Maybe, he'll do the smart thing and decide not to run. He and things have got to improve to save himself if he's looking for a 2nd term.
PG1985 would make a better political prognosticator.
Again, this is absolutely ridiculous.
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http://www.derbytrail.com/forums/sho...hlight=Hillary

Hillary owes nothing to the Democratic party. They readily threw her under the bus when Trick 'Em, Dick 'Em, and Dunk 'Em Teddy endorsed BHO. Bill Clinton's wrath is unassuaged, and Hillary is a buzzard on the fence waiting for the body to stop twitching. Maybe, he'll do the smart thing and decide not to run. He and things have got to improve to save himself if he's looking for a 2nd term.
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