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Old 08-31-2010, 09:01 PM
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BYU will be joining the small, private, mostly Jesuit, West Coast Conference in the 2011-2012 academic year. Their football program will go independent so that they don't have to share BCS revenue with their conference.

I know why the WCC agreed to add BYU ($$$) but seriously, why add BYU to a conference of small schools who will get their ass kicked by a bigger school with more money?
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Thank you for your voice of reason Morty, I knew you'd come through for me!
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BYU isn't kicking Saint Mary's or Gonzaga's ass. They're trying to make it more than a two-school league.
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BYU isn't kicking Saint Mary's or Gonzaga's ass. They're trying to make it more than a two-school league.
That's correct.
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BYU isn't kicking Saint Mary's or Gonzaga's ass. They're trying to make it more than a two-school league.
I work for a WCC school and three years ago we put all our emphasis (and $$$) into our basketball program in hopes that if it improved we'd make more money, so this does not help us at all - we went from hoping to be in the top three in our conference to more than likely being in the bottom half.

I'm not saying I agree with the direction we've chosen to take (and there are many of us in the department that don't agree with trying to do more with less), but I don't see how this really helps us at all.
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Old 08-31-2010, 10:12 PM
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I work for a WCC school and three years ago we put all our emphasis (and $$$) into our basketball program in hopes that if it improved we'd make more money, so this does not help us at all - we went from hoping to be in the top three in our conference to more than likely being in the bottom half.

I'm not saying I agree with the direction we've chosen to take (and there are many of us in the department that don't agree with trying to do more with less), but I don't see how this really helps us at all.
BYU adds exposure. They are a simi-big name and have a decent program. If they bring strength to the conference, that will help the entire conference. Fourth in a stronger conference is better than third in a weaker one.
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I work for a WCC school and three years ago we put all our emphasis (and $$$) into our basketball program in hopes that if it improved we'd make more money, so this does not help us at all - we went from hoping to be in the top three in our conference to more than likely being in the bottom half.

I'm not saying I agree with the direction we've chosen to take (and there are many of us in the department that don't agree with trying to do more with less), but I don't see how this really helps us at all.
The WCC's job is to get better and get more national exposure. Sitting around and waiting for Loyola Marymount and Portland to become at-large candidates isn't going to do that. You may not like it, but conferences are always going to jump at the opportunity to bring in a perennial top 25 team.
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I work for a WCC school and three years ago we put all our emphasis (and $$$) into our basketball program in hopes that if it improved we'd make more money, so this does not help us at all - we went from hoping to be in the top three in our conference to more than likely being in the bottom half.

I'm not saying I agree with the direction we've chosen to take (and there are many of us in the department that don't agree with trying to do more with less), but I don't see how this really helps us at all.
Honestly just putting money into a program doesn't ensure any success (well it worked for KY but they are over the salary cap this year...)
Really what every smalltime program that morphed into a top program was a very good head coach and line of progression behind him. Obviously you need support but a guy who can recruit and coach can raise a teams profile a whole lot quicker than nice facilities.

Gonzaga and St mary's are prime basketball examples but look at what Boise St and TCU has done in football which is far tougher for smaller schools to compete. Look at a team like Butler or like Xavier or even a program like Siena.
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