Simon Bray - Huh?

Scav · #1 10-09-2010, 06:04 PM

Hilarious. I am watching TVG right now, and he just quoted Sydney's Candy being 1/2 on BetFair to win the BC Mile, and he goes "He is 1.20 which is 1/2 here, and Goldikova is 3/1, must be a huge bet from someone on Betfair"

It is unreal they are allowed to educate the public.

Indian Charlie · #2 10-09-2010, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Hilarious. I am watching TVG right now, and he just quoted Sydney's Candy being 1/2 on BetFair to win the BC Mile, and he goes "He is 1.20 which is 1/2 here, and Goldikova is 3/1, must be a huge bet from someone on Betfair"

It is unreal they are allowed to educate the public.

When you say 1.20, do you mean 6/5?

Scav · #3 10-09-2010, 09:41 PM

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When you say 1.20, do you mean 6/5?

Of course. He saw the numbers together and just assumed it was 1/2, and this is coming from someone that came from over there where they do decimal betting. 1/2 is .5 in decimal wagering.

I don't have the hatred like most for the TVG guys, I think each of them have some strengths and provide certain strong angles that people can add to their handicapping, but Simon Bray is putrid, and really bad on TV. I know it isn't easy, but there are alot of qualified people, especially in the horse racing industry where someone people only work one meet and then go dick around for 6 months until their next gig starts.

Indian Charlie · #4 10-09-2010, 09:57 PM

Yeah, I've tried to portray Bray as a complete idiot before on here but the general consensus was that he was a brilliant trainer.

To me, he's like a slightly less retarded version of that Bin Suroor character.

Back to Sydney's Candy. Is he 6/5 or 1/2 for the mile in Betfair?

philcski · #5 10-09-2010, 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav

Of course. He saw the numbers together and just assumed it was 1/2, and this is coming from someone that came from over there where they do decimal betting. 1/2 is .5 in decimal wagering.

I don't have the hatred like most for the TVG guys, I think each of them have some strengths and provide certain strong angles that people can add to their handicapping, but Simon Bray is putrid, and really bad on TV. I know it isn't easy, but there are alot of qualified people, especially in the horse racing industry where someone people only work one meet and then go dick around for 6 months until their next gig starts.

Actually 1.2 is 1/5 in decimal wagering- there is no such thing as .5 in decimal wagering. 1.01 would be the lowest possible- or 1/100. 6/5 would be 2.2 in decimal.

But he's even more of a moron because that's the current offer price and a completely useless number on its own. The current bid price is 50-1. There's absolutely no liquidity on anybody but Goldikova (only $9k matched so far on the market), who is currently 2.34/2.7 (so mid price of 7/5).

#6 10-09-2010, 11:34 PM

Plus he looks like the flight attendant that went nuts.

Scav · #7 10-09-2010, 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Actually 1.2 is 1/5 in decimal wagering- there is no such thing as .5 in decimal wagering. 1.01 would be the lowest possible- or 1/100. 6/5 would be 2.2 in decimal.

But he's even more of a moron because that's the current offer price and a completely useless number on its own. The current bid price is 50-1. There's absolutely no liquidity on anybody but Goldikova (only $9k matched so far on the market), who is currently 2.34/2.7 (so mid price of 7/5).

Looks like I'm the moron then.

philcski · #8 10-09-2010, 11:45 PM

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Looks like I'm the moron then.

Not at all. We don't use decimal wagering here so you have no need for it. He's British, and employed by Betfair- he should at least have a competent knowledge of how it works- and to make a blanket statement like he did (that he's a heavy favorite based on a nonexistent one side of a market) is even more egregious than not knowing that 1.2 means 1/5 not 1/2.

Rupert Pupkin · #9 10-10-2010, 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by philcski

Actually 1.2 is 1/5 in decimal wagering- there is no such thing as .5 in decimal wagering. 1.01 would be the lowest possible- or 1/100. 6/5 would be 2.2 in decimal.

But he's even more of a moron because that's the current offer price and a completely useless number on its own. The current bid price is 50-1. There's absolutely no liquidity on anybody but Goldikova (only $9k matched so far on the market), who is currently 2.34/2.7 (so mid price of 7/5).

If that is the case then Bray had it right. Bray said that Sidney's Candy is 1-5 at Betfair. He said the "horse is 1.2-1 which makes him 1-5."

I was thinking the same thing that most others were thinking. I figured that 1.2-1 was 6-5. If 1.2-1 is 1-5 then Bray had it right.

As you said, the number is meaningless if there's no real market. The same thing happens sometimes in the extended hours of the stock market. Sometimes you will see a $50 stock with a bid of $1 and offered at $1,000.

Rupert Pupkin · #10 10-10-2010, 05:38 AM

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Hilarious. I am watching TVG right now, and he just quoted Sydney's Candy being 1/2 on BetFair to win the BC Mile, and he goes "He is 1.20 which is 1/2 here, and Goldikova is 3/1, must be a huge bet from someone on Betfair"

It is unreal they are allowed to educate the public.

You either misunderstood him or we were watching at different times. While I was watching, he said the horse "is 1.2-1 at Betfair, which is 1-5".