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Old 06-06-2006, 03:17 PM
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read a post inquiring as to the new owner. Read it on there website. They are pointing him to the col cup and va derby. Saw he worked extremely fast at aqueduct today. This horse will be a serious threat in those races under Dutrows tutelage.
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Old 06-06-2006, 03:23 PM
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read a post inquiring as to the new owner. Read it on there website. They are pointing him to the col cup and va derby. Saw he worked extremely fast at aqueduct today. This horse will be a serious threat in those races under Dutrows tutelage.
If my friend gets back in the country by that weekend I am going to that race. Anyone else going? It is a smart race to point towards because of the money, but he is running for 3rd place at best. Still that is a nice check out of $1 million.
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Old 06-06-2006, 03:25 PM
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who have you heard. I heard showing up and stream cat. Off the numbers he is right with Showing up and towers over stream cat. He was trained by Mike neatherlin and ran a 99 beyer and 5.75 rag. Will move up decidedly for RD.
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Old 06-06-2006, 03:44 PM
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who have you heard. I heard showing up and stream cat. Off the numbers he is right with Showing up and towers over stream cat. He was trained by Mike neatherlin and ran a 99 beyer and 5.75 rag. Will move up decidedly for RD.
$500,000K is way too much to pay for that horse unless they think he can get it back in the next two races. He is an OK bred and $500K is a pretty penny for a horse that couldn't even handle allowance horses on the turf at Remington. His other turf win was in a $13,000 allowance race. More inclined to think he liked a soft turf than think he is a good horse because of a $75K turf win at Lonestar. His efforts against Lawyer Ron on the dirt were just terrible.

He really isn't there with Showing Up because Showing Up has no figures. SU loves the turf though. He made English Channel look slow yesterday morning at Belmont. I guess he could beat Hurley's horse. It is horse racing though, so you never know.

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Old 06-06-2006, 03:49 PM
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Bold Ruler,

That is an AWFUL powerful statement making English Channel look slow, he must be a monster on the turf
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Old 06-06-2006, 04:07 PM
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Bold Ruler,

That is an AWFUL powerful statement making English Channel look slow, he must be a monster on the turf

EC worked pretty slow (race this weekend) so it really is hard to say and Showing Up's work was incredibly fast. It appears that he took to the turf. I didn't see the works just heard about them last night and read the times yesterday. SU's time was significantly faster than any other horse on the turf. My friend said Showing Up is super fast but distance could be a problem. Not an expert, but I was told it will be interesting to see how SU's speed works on the turf where it usually is better to come from off the pace. SU is no Barbaro though but a nice replacement. 3yr olds on the turf this year aren't much, probably why the bought that horse. None of them stand a chance of winning that bonus because they would have to beat older horses in the BC. Still $1M races are tough to come by. Wonder where all the Europeans are.
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Old 06-06-2006, 05:22 PM
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read a post inquiring as to the new owner. Read it on there website. They are pointing him to the col cup and va derby. Saw he worked extremely fast at aqueduct today. This horse will be a serious threat in those races under Dutrows tutelage.
Didnt Roy retain 10%. He was 1/2 owner with neederlin. I heard that Neaderlin tried to talk them into running against Stream cat last week-end at LS
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:30 PM
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read a post inquiring as to the new owner. Read it on there website. They are pointing him to the col cup and va derby. Saw he worked extremely fast at aqueduct today. This horse will be a serious threat in those races under Dutrows tutelage.
Do you own part of this horse or work for Dutrow because that horse is nothing special.
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:43 PM
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don't own him. just noticed that someone had posted as to whom bought him. Was browsing the ieah website and saw they did. Called them to inquire if any was for sale. They said no. Nice guy by the name of mike sherack spoke to me. He told me that dutrow told them this horse could end up being the best horse he has ever trained. Remember this post..He was not selling me a line because he wasn't offering any of him for sale. He said he breezed in company with love of money today and toyed with him. They said he moves way up on the turf. I love finding horses nobody knows about. Anyone can talk about Showing up or stream cat, Kip flies under the radar and that is what I look for....Jeff
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:47 PM
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don't own him. just noticed that someone had posted as to whom bought him. Was browsing the ieah website and saw they did. Called them to inquire if any was for sale. They said no. Nice guy by the name of mike sherack spoke to me. He told me that dutrow told them this horse could end up being the best horse he has ever trained. Remember this post..He was not selling me a line because he wasn't offering any of him for sale. He said he breezed in company with love of money today and toyed with him. They said he moves way up on the turf. I love finding horses nobody knows about. Anyone can talk about Showing up or stream cat, Kip flies under the radar and that is what I look for....Jeff
The best horse he ever trained? The guy had Saint Liam and has Silver Train. That horse is running with cheap allowance horses and won a race in TX on a terrible course. Good luck if you bet on him in that race although Dutrow will have him ready. Don't worry they didn't sell you any, if you wait about 8-10 months you can buy him in the 15K claimer at Aqueduct. Kidding.
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Old 06-06-2006, 09:51 PM
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The best horse he ever trained? The guy had Saint Liam and has Silver Train. That horse is running with cheap allowance horses and won a race in TX on a terrible course. Good luck if you bet on him in that race although Dutrow will have him ready. Don't worry they didn't sell you any, if you wait about 8-10 months you can buy him in the 15K claimer at Aqueduct. Kidding.

A 25 claimer. LOL
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Old 06-06-2006, 10:22 PM
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why wish them misery?
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Old 06-24-2006, 06:01 PM
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The best horse he ever trained? The guy had Saint Liam and has Silver Train. That horse is running with cheap allowance horses and won a race in TX on a terrible course. Good luck if you bet on him in that race although Dutrow will have him ready. Don't worry they didn't sell you any, if you wait about 8-10 months you can buy him in the 15K claimer at Aqueduct. Kidding.
Its time for soem crow eating here boys and girls!!! Just thought Exceller and Bold Ruler whould have this thread bumped up!!!! Exceller, how does his breeding look now? Looks pretty irrelevant to me and at 500 grand they got a bargain. They could get 2 mill for him off that incredible race!!!
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Old 06-24-2006, 06:06 PM
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EX COACH JARVIS PLEASE....as well as EX BOARD MEMBER

BTW Mike Jarvis was given a no show title by IEAH...he did nothing for the company.

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Old 06-24-2006, 06:18 PM
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Its time for soem crow eating here boys and girls!!! Just thought Exceller and Bold Ruler whould have this thread bumped up!!!! Exceller, how does his breeding look now? Looks pretty irrelevant to me and at 500 grand they got a bargain. They could get 2 mill for him off that incredible race!!!
Crow eating, with my money. I am not sure what I said other than that Showing Up would win, and he did. I said it before the race. As usual Oracle had the trifecta, but would give out his pick before the race even though i asked him 3x. Tough loss for Oracles guys, nice win for the Jacksons.

I now have Zero respect for Oracle, since I know he is full of it. If he really hit a triple he wouldn't be bashing Showing Up and saying Kip Deville will destroy him in a rematch. Sounds like a sore loser to me.
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