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10-29-2010, 06:52 PM
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Crist: Zenyatta needs to earn title on track
http://www.drf.com/news/zenyatta-must-earn-title-track
A couple snippets... If, however, Zenyatta loses the Classic to Blame, Lookin At Lucky, or Quality Road, she does not deserve to be the Horse of the Year for 2010. She may well be the Horse of the Last Three Years or Distaffer of the Decade, and she might be the only horse in the field who ultimately is elected to racing’s Hall of Fame, but she would not be the most accomplished racehorse of 2010. It would indeed be a historical curiosity if Zenyatta never won a Horse of the Year award despite three sensational campaigns, but it would be neither unprecedented nor disparaging of her achievements and her secure and rightful place among racing’s greatest fillies. Dozens of other great females from Shuvee and Ruffian to Bayakoa and Personal Ensign were never Horse of the Year, nor should they have been.
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10-29-2010, 07:29 PM
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If Zenyatta wins the BC Classic, she deserves all the accolades and all the awards that can be laid at her feet.
I think she can pull it off. I've always been and shall remain a Rachel fan but never at the expense of dissing Zenyatta.
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10-29-2010, 07:36 PM
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10-29-2010, 07:41 PM
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It's common sense which doesn't apply with this fanbase. She has her shot on the track, so no excuses for her, Blame, Lucky, and Quality Road.
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10-29-2010, 07:40 PM
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It's one thing for people outside the sport to look at her record and go "DURRR SHE NEVAH LOST BEST HORSE EVAH" but for people who follow the sport to say things like "if she wins the Classic, every award she gets and everything that's said about her is justified", it's frankly mindboggling. It's wildly untrue.
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10-30-2010, 08:13 AM
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When I said she deserved all accolades, I left out the word plausible.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/...n6999875.shtml "If she pulls this off, in my book - of course, I'm a little bit one-sided - but I think…she could be the greatest horse of all time," Smith says. That kind of career would put her up there with the most famous Triple Crown Winner, Secretariat, considered one of the greatest ever. But Smith thinks his mount could be even better than Secretariat after a Breeder's Cup win. Bob Simon reports on Zenyatta's quest for horse-racing history on "60 Minutes" this Sunday, Oct. 31, at 7 p.m. ET/PT.
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10-30-2010, 10:34 AM
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I have not encountered one single person that " hates " Zenyatta. Not a soul. What I have encountered are a lot of loose cannons that in their fear of seeing Zenyatta accurately assessed have labeled all those with an unbiased opinion of her to be " haters " and have resorted to as many diversionary tactics as they could possibly dream up. They obfuscate the truth by ignoring competition, surface, race restrictions, and mostly by introducing complete non-sequitors on a continual basis ( i.e. last year's HOY Award and most notably Rachel Alexandra ). Karl Rove would be proud. Zenyatta is a VERY good horse. However, she will never be as good, based on her actual racetrack performances, as some want us to believe. Nothing wrong with that, as some want us to believe she is the greatest horse of all time, and nothing could be further from the truth. An impressive win in this BC Classic would prove a lot, and certainly elevate her lofty status, but by the same token, a mediocre performance should be viewed as exposing her weaknesses that heretofore have been either ignored or strongly denied. What the hell is wrong with being an exceptional racehorse? Why is it so important to manufacture praise that isn't necessarily warranted to enjoy talent these days? And why are those that question the overzealousness suddenly " haters " when they are actually nothing more than realists?
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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10-29-2010, 07:41 PM
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10-30-2010, 05:09 PM
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Last year...............0.6
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Just more nebulous nonsense from BBB
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10-30-2010, 12:42 AM
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An ad just came on during Letterman for the 60 Minutes piece on Zenyatta, and they say "Is she the greatest filly of all time? You bet she is!"
I gagged. She's the dancing queen, but c'mon. There's more to do here. This before she even runs in the Classic at Churchill. If she loses, it takes the thunder out of their proclamation, so I understand why CBS's doing things this way. Still waiting on that 60 Minutes special on Gallorette. Doesn't mean Zenyatta's not a Hall of Famer. It's just ridiculous hyperbole right now, aimed at scoring viewers.
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10-30-2010, 12:46 AM
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"Zenyatta deserved to share last year’s award with Rachel Alexandra, but voters were deprived of that option. "
http://www.drf.com/news/zenyatta-must-earn-title-track Does everyone agree with this part too? I agree with everything Crist says for the record.
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10-30-2010, 01:12 AM
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10-30-2010, 08:23 AM
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The Breeders Cup often serves as confirmation for the US champion or as a tie-breaker between evenly matched contenders, but it shouldn't replace accomplishments of an entire campaign. That's why you don't see great ones like Ouija Board winning the award when they stop in for a day, and why Goldlikova isn't a contender this year. Again, all this is common sense which continues to escape a certain group.
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10-30-2010, 09:05 AM
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so will it be called the 60 minutes jinx?
sports illustrated better run a cover for her need to counteract that superstition there could be some bad ass mojo going around and it is running on halloween night dirt,hype,travel,the boys Z is getting the worst of it  love the cup glad its getting hype hope owners invest more in this dying sport ot we'll be dogging each other out about which horse is going to win he merry go round at the state fair
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