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Old 11-14-2010, 09:03 AM
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Default Uncle Mo faster than BC Classic field on Ragozin

This is something that surely will never happen again - Uncle Mo (1.25) ran a faster Ragozin Sheet figure in his Juvie win than anyone in the BC Classic field. Blame (2.25) had the fastest Rag # of any horse in the Classic.

The reason why Uncle Mo is a little faster than the BC Classic field on Ragozin - but 3 points slower on Beyer is likely from the wind adjustment.

Just like on Thoro-Graph - Goldikova got the fastest Ragozin of any horse over the two days. A turf horse coming away with the fastest overall figure in a Breeders Cup event from both sheet figure companies would be another extreme rarity.

The pace was fast enough in the BC Classic to dismantle the four speeds - everyone else staggered by them - in an analytical sense, it was the dirt BC Classic edition that will go down in infamy. Certainly though - it was no eyesore to watch like all the figures will say.
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Old 11-14-2010, 01:30 PM
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Could Mo have come home in 26 flat off a 36 and 1 mile if he ran in the Classic? If so, he would have been in the photo. Tall order for a 2 yo but who knows?
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Old 11-14-2010, 06:59 PM
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He probably would have been in a photo with QR if he ran in there.
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:00 PM
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He probably would have been in a photo with QR if he ran in there.
You're clueless.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:41 PM
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You're clueless.
No U R if you think Mo would have had any shot at all hitting the board in the BC Classic.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:46 PM
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Hahahahahaahahahahhaahhaaaaaaaa

2yo against that classic field. Yeah you're right bud, mo woulda been right there because sheets said so. Pshew, lord have mercy. Ateam. Take the prefix off your name it's more fitting as "stupid"
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Old 11-14-2010, 07:13 PM
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He probably would have been in a photo with QR if he ran in there.
And if Zenyatta had run in the Juvy male race, she'd have been in a photo for 3rd. Maybe 2nd.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:37 PM
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And if Zenyatta had run in the Juvy male race, she'd have been in a photo for 3rd. Maybe 2nd.
.....o.k
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:47 PM
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.....o.k
Hey, if just about everyone else can stay horrifically stupid stuff around here, at least allow me the right to post something that is at least in the realm of possibility.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:58 PM
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And if Zenyatta had run in the Juvy male race, she'd have been in a photo for 3rd. Maybe 2nd.
It is same type of thinking that says the best college football team could beat the worst team in the NFL.
Which a lot of people believe is possible.
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Old 11-14-2010, 11:04 PM
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It is same type of thinking that says the best college football team could beat the worst team in the NFL.
Which a lot of people believe is possible.
I was trying to make a point Jack.

That being said, I seem to remember this book I had as a kid called "The Way it Was". It was a sports book recounting big moments in sports, like the shot heard round the world.

I seem to remember a college team beating the pros several decades ago
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:45 PM
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Could Mo have come home in 26 flat off a 36 and 1 mile if he ran in the Classic? If so, he would have been in the photo. Tall order for a 2 yo but who knows?
Probably - but that analogy doesn't work because they ran in two seperate races with different paces.

Uncle Mo would have obviously been a pace casualty in the BC Classic.

Quality Road did very little running at all - sure, he might have beat Life At Ten, but that's it.

If Blame and Zenyatta had been inserted into the BC Juvie - with that easy pace in relation to the one in the Classic - Uncle Mo is still going to run his same race. Those two closers aren't going to make him slower.
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:35 PM
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Probably - but that analogy doesn't work because they ran in two seperate races with different paces.

Uncle Mo would have obviously been a pace casualty in the BC Classic.

Quality Road did very little running at all - sure, he might have beat Life At Ten, but that's it.

If Blame and Zenyatta had been inserted into the BC Juvie - with that easy pace in relation to the one in the Classic - Uncle Mo is still going to run his same race. Those two closers aren't going to make him slower.
C'mon DrugS..
You are smart enough to know Blame and Z would have steam rolled Mo at any distance.
No matter of the pace!!
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:38 PM
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C'mon DrugS..
You are smart enough to know Blame and Z would have steam rolled Mo at any distance.
No matter of the pace!!
That is just utterly ridiculous.
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:59 PM
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C'mon DrugS..
You are smart enough to know Blame and Z would have steam rolled Mo at any distance.
No matter of the pace!!
I hate to break the news to you Jack - but Blame's not as good as A LOT of people think. Zenyatta isn't either. Captain Steve as a fall 3yo - would have smoked them both at any distance.
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Old 11-15-2010, 05:15 PM
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I hate to break the news to you Jack - but Blame's not as good as A LOT of people think. Zenyatta isn't either. Captain Steve as a fall 3yo - would have smoked them both at any distance.
That is not the point.
The point is that a 2yo colt 1st time routing could hang with the best Male and female route horses at 8.5f.
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Old 11-15-2010, 05:18 PM
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I hate to break the news to you Jack - but Blame's not as good as A LOT of people think. Zenyatta isn't either. Captain Steve as a fall 3yo - would have smoked them both at any distance.
Post Capt Steve's PP's...if you have them.
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