Derby Trail Forums

Go Back   Derby Trail Forums > Main Forum > The Paddock
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Today's Posts

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old 12-26-2010, 08:15 PM
my miss storm cat's Avatar
my miss storm cat my miss storm cat is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,025
Default The envelope, please

Who, in your opinion, wins the award for...

Most overrated horse of the year?

Underrated?

Most overrated jock of the year?

Underrated?
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 12-26-2010, 08:22 PM
Port Conway Lane Port Conway Lane is offline
Randwyck
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 1,463
Default

Deja Vu !
I think the first criteria is who is doing the rating.
So depending on who is rating the horse to begin with the answer will vary.
To play it safe I'll say Zenyatta is both the most over rated and under rated horse.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 12-26-2010, 09:13 PM
richard burch's Avatar
richard burch richard burch is offline
Churchill Downs
 
Join Date: Aug 2007
Location: new jersey
Posts: 1,751
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Port Conway Lane View Post
Deja Vu !
I think the first criteria is who is doing the rating.
So depending on who is rating the horse to begin with the answer will vary.
To play it safe I'll say Zenyatta is both the most over rated and under rated horse.


you know what?


you are right, i agree!
__________________
Support your local Re-run or horse rescue organization.
https://www.rerunottb.com/:)
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 12-26-2010, 09:19 PM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default

How the flying hell is Zenyatta underrated? And don't give me the straw man argument that people who don't worship her totally always say that she sucks and she's a rat and a big doodiehead.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 12-26-2010, 10:00 PM
NTamm1215 NTamm1215 is offline
Havre de Grace
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 5,629
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by my miss storm cat View Post
Who, in your opinion, wins the award for...

Most overrated horse of the year?

Underrated?

Most overrated jock of the year?

Underrated?
Overrated horse - Quality Road, honorable mention Sidney's Candy
Underrated horse - Majesticperfection
Overrated jockey - Jose Lezcano/Calvin Borel outside of CD
Underrated - Joel Rosario
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 12-26-2010, 10:12 PM
RockHardTen1985 RockHardTen1985 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Posts: 11,208
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by NTamm1215 View Post
Overrated horse - Quality Road, honorable mention Sidney's Candy
Underrated horse - Majesticperfection
Overrated jockey - Jose Lezcano/Calvin Borel outside of CD
Underrated - Joel Rosario
This is a pretty horrible list. Quality Road had the best year of any older male in the country other then Blame. A nose seperated them at Toga. Sidneys Candy was 5-1 in his BC race and was a total freak today. He is the goods, not sure who made him out to be that much better then he is.
Who said Lezcano was good? Borel won the Derby. Saying outside of CD is not fair, its his home track, he has made a career there.
Majesticperfection is the best sprinter we had and still could win the Eclipse. He has been hurt for 6 months, why should anyone talk about him now? I dont think many people would say Big Drama is better then him, because he is not. MP was the best sprinter this year hands down, and I have not heard read much different. I have never heard anyone say he stinks or talk him down. Rosario is the best jockey in California, who in the past few years has said other?
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old 12-26-2010, 11:25 PM
my miss storm cat's Avatar
my miss storm cat my miss storm cat is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
This is a pretty horrible list
Ummm... NTamm is the only one who answered the questions!
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old 12-26-2010, 11:30 PM
my miss storm cat's Avatar
my miss storm cat my miss storm cat is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rare Bog View Post
Obviously you don't read too well.... I answered the questions dimwit.
Fair enough. I just meant he answered them without putting his own spin on them... straighforward.

Alright though, you answered too. No need to act like a prima donna.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old 12-27-2010, 11:11 AM
ateamstupid's Avatar
ateamstupid ateamstupid is offline
Super Mod.. and Super Fly
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 13,036
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 View Post
Sidneys Candy was 5-1 in his BC race
Therefore he's not overrated. Well done.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old 12-27-2010, 02:26 PM
munster705 munster705 is offline
Morris Park
 
Join Date: May 2006
Posts: 144
Default

Overrated Horse -- Zenyatta -- Went up against 1 solid field all year and lost.

Underrated Horse -- Goldikova -- The BEST horse we have seen in a long time and she does not get the limelight and media that she deserves on this side of the pond.

Overrated Jockey -- Ramon Dominguez -- Rides a lot fo good horses in NY, but does not do much in the big ones

Underrated Jockey -- Calvin Borel -- Obviously rides big on the biggest stages. He would never be mentioned in any conversation regarding best jockeys
Reply With Quote
  #11  
Old 12-27-2010, 02:38 PM
MaTH716's Avatar
MaTH716 MaTH716 is offline
Flemington
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Jersey
Posts: 11,438
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by munster705 View Post
Overrated Horse -- Zenyatta -- Went up against 1 solid field all year and lost.

Underrated Horse -- Goldikova -- The BEST horse we have seen in a long time and she does not get the limelight and media that she deserves on this side of the pond.

Overrated Jockey -- Ramon Dominguez -- Rides a lot fo good horses in NY, but does not do much in the big ones

Underrated Jockey -- Calvin Borel -- Obviously rides big on the biggest stages. He would never be mentioned in any conversation regarding best jockeys
Is this Gales? If not are you a member of that PBKC?
__________________
Felix Unger talking to Oscar Madison: "Your horse could finish third by 20 lengths and they still pay you? And you have been losing money for all these years?!"
Reply With Quote
  #12  
Old 12-26-2010, 11:23 PM
my miss storm cat's Avatar
my miss storm cat my miss storm cat is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rare Bog View Post
ENVELOPE #4
HOOVERS-BREAST PUMPS-JOCKIES... hovers-breast pumps- jockies
Name three things will that always suck
Okay that was actually a good one.
Reply With Quote
  #13  
Old 12-26-2010, 11:31 PM
my miss storm cat's Avatar
my miss storm cat my miss storm cat is offline
Saratoga
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Posts: 22,025
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rare Bog View Post
Figures you'd like it.... it was by far the worst one.
Well considering I'm a dimwit? Yes, it figures.
Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:28 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.6.8
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.