Deron Williams to Nets

somerfrost · #1 02-23-2011, 03:08 PM

not bad for "plan B"

#2 02-23-2011, 03:13 PM

Yeah if you're mentally challenged.

Dahoss · #3 02-23-2011, 03:24 PM

It's a good thing he pushed Jerry Sloan out while he was still in Utah.

somerfrost · #4 02-23-2011, 03:32 PM

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Yeah if you're mentally challenged.

As is often the case, I don't understand your post...are you saying that acquiring one of the top PG's in the NBA is a bad deal?

dalakhani · #5 02-23-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by somerfrost

As is often the case, I don't understand your post...are you saying that acquiring one of the top PG's in the NBA is a bad deal?

If you think that trading away what amounts to what likely will be four high lottery picks (favors #3, Harris #5, GS pick, NJ pick) for a guy that might not even re-sign after next season is a good trade...

Give Utah credit. They took advantage of a desperate owner that was trying to save a little face.

Cannon Shell · #6 02-23-2011, 05:40 PM

I dont think this is a bad trade for NJ

They traded a top pick in a weak draft, a protected pick, a fair PG and a pretty soft looking Favors for one of the 3 best PG's in the league.

Sure it could backfire if Williams opt's to sign somewhere else but they gave up less than NY did for a better player.

Plus NJ has a lot of cap space and still has draft picks. They have been peddling Harris for 2 years and never found taker and Favors looks like he is not going to be an impact player, maybe ever.

ateamstupid · #7 02-23-2011, 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think this is a bad trade for NJ

They traded a top pick in a weak draft, a protected pick, a fair PG and a pretty soft looking Favors for one of the 3 best PG's in the league.

Sure it could backfire if Williams opt's to sign somewhere else but they gave up less than NY did for a better player.

Plus NJ has a lot of cap space and still has draft picks. They have been peddling Harris for 2 years and never found taker and Favors looks like he is not going to be an impact player, maybe ever.

Bingo. They had to hook a huge fish to build around and they did.

freddymo · #8 02-23-2011, 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell

I dont think this is a bad trade for NJ

They traded a top pick in a weak draft, a protected pick, a fair PG and a pretty soft looking Favors for one of the 3 best PG's in the league.

Sure it could backfire if Williams opt's to sign somewhere else but they gave up less than NY did for a better player.

Plus NJ has a lot of cap space and still has draft picks. They have been peddling Harris for 2 years and never found taker and Favors looks like he is not going to be an impact player, maybe ever.

If they dont sign him and lure additional 2012 free agents its a complete waste of time.

GPK · #9 02-24-2011, 09:15 PM

Who wins in this deal?

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba...ory?id=6155082

Cannon Shell · #10 02-24-2011, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK

Who wins in this deal?

http://sports.espn.go.com/boston/nba...ory?id=6155082

If Perkins can stay healthy he is what OKC really needed especially to get through LA. Not sure why Boston made this move.

freddymo · #11 02-25-2011, 09:15 AM

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If Perkins can stay healthy he is what OKC really needed especially to get through LA. Not sure why Boston made this move.

They love Green and will resign Perkins years end.

BTW Billups is signed thru the year with a buyout. How are they strapped with Billups out?

Cannon Shell · #12 02-25-2011, 10:00 AM

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They love Green and will resign Perkins years end.

BTW Billups is signed thru the year with a buyout. How are they strapped with Billups out?

They are alone in loving Green. Atrocious defender, too slow to guard 3's, too small to guard 4's. Has a decent offensive game but how does he fit into their plans this season and next? He and Davis are basically the same player. I can't imagine they will re-sign both. I know they got pretty good pick as well and if they were not one of the two or three favs for the title I could see what they are doing.

Re-signing Perkins next year doesn't help this year when the window of opportunity seems to be the biggest. And I dont see that happening anyway if they are going to take a run at Dwight Howard in 2012.

Billups wont be bought out because they wont be able to replace him with a suitable player without eating up significant cap space. The PG class of this summer is Earl Boykins and Carlos Arroyo. I can't imagine that they would look to clear cap space and punt next year as well. Remember they are going to have to pay Fields in 12/13 as well. They have 2 guys that make 40 million already and if the hard cap or a shrinking soft cap come into effect as pretty much everyone expects, they will have less money to fill out the roster. The other issue is they have almost nothing to maneuver with.
The problem with the trade that I have is IMO it was unnecessary and has left the Knicks with a far more difficult task than if they had simply allowed it to play out.

ateamstupid · #13 02-25-2011, 12:48 PM

I think the Celtics' front office was just tired of having Perkins be so useless on offense. He's a very good defender, but that's only worth so much when you're on the bench every 4th quarter. Green gives them five double-digit scorers and finally a legitimate backup to Pierce.

I'm not in love with getting smaller, but the offensive gains will be worth it IMO.