Beyer in Chilie

[The Indomitable DrugS]

http://www.drf.com/news/chile-horses...rd-their-money

[Dahoss]

I wonder how the announcers are in Chile.

[The Indomitable DrugS]

They probably make 40 cents per race call there.

The toughness of the horses there has a lot to do with the breeding and small purses.

I was looking over the pp's of the horses in the '35 Kentucky Derby field ... you had horses making career starts number 44, 42, and 38.

* Trainer F. M. Bray was so fearful that his 44th time starter would not be fit enough for the Kentucky Derby - that he actually worked him 10 furlongs two days before the race (only the most recent workout appears in old forms - and it's under the horses name)



* Blackbirder raced 35 times before November of his 2yo season! :



* McCarthy looks like a pus$y by comparison :

[The Indomitable DrugS]

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

* Trainer F. M. Bray was so fearful that his 44th time starter would not be fit enough for the Kentucky Derby - that he actually worked him 10 furlongs two days before the race (only the most recent workout appears in old forms - and it's under the horses name)

Interestingly enough, the sire of this horse - Tutti Frutti - had actually raced in Chile and won the triple crown there.

[PatCummings]

Bottom line - the American breed of thoroughbred is substantially weaker in comparison to horses reared in other countries. An overwhelming focus on speed and a wholehearted overbreeding has led to what we have today. A ton of horses who race less frequently, bleed, etc.

Can horses come back in a few days and run again and win? Then again? And again? Absolutely. Happens in...not Chile...but the UK...and more than you think. I can think of two recent examples of horses who did it.

FINAL DRIVE - UK-based horse who won three times over 15 days in November, and then after a third beaten a nose, came back and won three more times in 18 days in December.

http://www.attheraces.com/search.asp...l+drive&type=H

SILAAH - also based in the UK - had two seconds and two wins in 22 days before shipping to Dubai and grabbing second in a $110,000 race.

http://www.attheraces.com/search.asp...=silaah&type=H

Click the links and then their names to bring up lifetime free PPs.

To me, the greatest indictment about the pervasiveness of drugs in American racing is not best shown by what happens in the US, but rather, by what happens everywhere else. American racing is the pariah. WE are the crazy ones, at least in the minds of the rest of the racing world. Can horses be raced with such frequency? The answer is yes...

Can it be done in the US? Not so much...

[Indian Charlie]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Bottom line - the American breed of thoroughbred is substantially weaker in comparison to horses reared in other countries. An overwhelming focus on speed and a wholehearted overbreeding has led to what we have today. A ton of horses who race less frequently, bleed, etc.

Can horses come back in a few days and run again and win? Then again? And again? Absolutely. Happens in...not Chile...but the UK...and more than you think. I can think of two recent examples of horses who did it.

FINAL DRIVE - UK-based horse who won three times over 15 days in November, and then after a third beaten a nose, came back and won three more times in 18 days in December.

http://www.attheraces.com/search.asp...l+drive&type=H

SILAAH - also based in the UK - had two seconds and two wins in 22 days before shipping to Dubai and grabbing second in a $110,000 race.

http://www.attheraces.com/search.asp...=silaah&type=H

Click the links and then their names to bring up lifetime free PPs.

To me, the greatest indictment about the pervasiveness of drugs in American racing is not best shown by what happens in the US, but rather, by what happens everywhere else. American racing is the pariah. WE are the crazy ones, at least in the minds of the rest of the racing world. Can horses be raced with such frequency? The answer is yes...

Can it be done in the US? Not so much...

I am a critic of American culture more than most.

However, I think what you are saying is ridiculous. Show me anywhere in the world that has heavily raced world class racehorses.

The reason some horses are raced heavily is because they can be, and need to be (from the owners perspective).

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Bottom line - the American breed of thoroughbred is substantially weaker in comparison to horses reared in other countries. An overwhelming focus on speed and a wholehearted overbreeding has led to what we have today. A ton of horses who race less frequently, bleed, etc.

Can horses come back in a few days and run again and win? Then again? And again? Absolutely. Happens in...not Chile...but the UK...and more than you think. I can think of two recent examples of horses who did it.

FINAL DRIVE - UK-based horse who won three times over 15 days in November, and then after a third beaten a nose, came back and won three more times in 18 days in December.

http://www.attheraces.com/search.asp...l+drive&type=H

SILAAH - also based in the UK - had two seconds and two wins in 22 days before shipping to Dubai and grabbing second in a $110,000 race.

http://www.attheraces.com/search.asp...=silaah&type=H

Click the links and then their names to bring up lifetime free PPs.

To me, the greatest indictment about the pervasiveness of drugs in American racing is not best shown by what happens in the US, but rather, by what happens everywhere else. American racing is the pariah. WE are the crazy ones, at least in the minds of the rest of the racing world. Can horses be raced with such frequency? The answer is yes...

Can it be done in the US? Not so much...

Ever think that all of the very best US breeding stock has left the country to race in other countries. Breeders havent weakned their stock intentional, they sold it.

[freddymo]

Originally Posted by PatCummings

Bottom line - the American breed of thoroughbred is substantially weaker in comparison to horses reared in other countries. An overwhelming focus on speed and a wholehearted overbreeding has led to what we have today. A ton of horses who race less frequently, bleed, etc.

Can horses come back in a few days and run again and win? Then again? And again? Absolutely. Happens in...not Chile...but the UK...and more than you think. I can think of two recent examples of horses who did it.

FINAL DRIVE - UK-based horse who won three times over 15 days in November, and then after a third beaten a nose, came back and won three more times in 18 days in December.

http://www.attheraces.com/search.asp...l+drive&type=H

SILAAH - also based in the UK - had two seconds and two wins in 22 days before shipping to Dubai and grabbing second in a $110,000 race.

http://www.attheraces.com/search.asp...=silaah&type=H

Click the links and then their names to bring up lifetime free PPs.

To me, the greatest indictment about the pervasiveness of drugs in American racing is not best shown by what happens in the US, but rather, by what happens everywhere else. American racing is the pariah. WE are the crazy ones, at least in the minds of the rest of the racing world. Can horses be raced with such frequency? The answer is yes...

Can it be done in the US? Not so much...

Silaah is a 7 year old has raced a whopping 28 times and earned an amazing 89k in his glorious career. Silaah is a nickel claimer and a bad one. He would be hard pressed to beat 7500 nl2 at Parx with or without raceday meds