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Old 03-07-2011, 09:27 PM
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Default Hypothetical Derby Trainer Prop Bet

Is there a prop/future bet available right now where you can bet on a trainer to win the derby?

Where would you set the odds for Todd Pletcher to win the 2011 derby? It would seem to me that he would have to be no higher than 2/1 but that's just pulling a number out of the air based on uncle mo's closing odds in pool 1 along with his other contenders. Would 2-1 be a good price?

Where would you set baffert's line?

If this is a widely available wager, please pardon my ignorance.
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Old 03-07-2011, 09:42 PM
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DrugSFair.com odds:

Todd Pletcher: 5/2
Bob Baffert: 6/1
Nick Zito: 8/1
Kiaran McLaughlin: 10/1
Bill Mott: 10/1
Ken McPeak: 18/1
Steve Asmussen: 20/1
Kathy Ritvo: 20/1
John Sadler: 25/1
Neil Howard: 30/1
Cannon Shell: 90/1
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:00 PM
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DrugSFair.com odds:

Todd Pletcher: 5/2
Bob Baffert: 6/1
Nick Zito: 8/1
Kiaran McLaughlin: 10/1
Bill Mott: 10/1
Ken McPeak: 18/1
Steve Asmussen: 20/1
Kathy Ritvo: 20/1
John Sadler: 25/1
Neil Howard: 30/1
Cannon Shell: 90/1
5/2 on Pletcher is a joke and you obviously aren't thinking clearly.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:02 PM
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I'd make Uncle Mo either 7/2 or 4/1 right now.

After him - you have what - Stay Thirsty (50/1) Bretheran (50/1) Cal Nation (50/1)
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:05 PM
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I'd make Uncle Mo either 7/2 or 4/1 right now.

After him - you have what - Stay Thirsty (50/1) Bretheran (50/1) Cal Nation (50/1)
I smell a second bet in 7 hours.

Will you seriously give me 50-1 on Bretheren and Stay Thirsty?
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:14 PM
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I smell a second bet in 7 hours.

Will you seriously give me 50-1 on Bretheren and Stay Thirsty?
Bretheren is going to take such an easy path into the KY Derby - and because of his pedigree and connections - he's almost certain to be wildly overbet. It's pretty safe i'll be playing against him in the markets if he wins soft at Tampa.

Stay Thirsty will also be MUCH shorter than 50/1 if he makes the race - but I'd put his true chances at that right now.
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Old 03-08-2011, 08:51 AM
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DrugSFair.com odds:

Todd Pletcher: 5/2
Bob Baffert: 6/1
Nick Zito: 8/1
Kiaran McLaughlin: 10/1
Bill Mott: 10/1
Ken McPeak: 18/1
Steve Asmussen: 20/1
Kathy Ritvo: 20/1
John Sadler: 25/1
Neil Howard: 30/1
Cannon Shell: 90/1
I can scrape up 1/2 a mil and will go all in that Cannon Shell will not win the derby if anyone is interested.
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Old 03-08-2011, 09:15 AM
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DrugSFair.com odds:

Todd Pletcher: 5/2
Bob Baffert: 6/1
Nick Zito: 8/1
Kiaran McLaughlin: 10/1
Bill Mott: 10/1
Ken McPeak: 18/1
Steve Asmussen: 20/1
Kathy Ritvo: 20/1
John Sadler: 25/1
Neil Howard: 30/1
Cannon Shell: 90/1
If you moved Cannon Shell up to 175/1, I'd like it for 10 pesos please.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:34 AM
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If you moved Cannon Shell up to 175/1, I'd like it for 10 pesos please.
I'm fearful GBBob/Cannon Shell are going to a pull a War Emblem move - and buy something that wins the fastest Derby prep race.
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