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Indian Charlie · #1 03-08-2011, 05:02 PM

http://www.drf.com/news/caracortado-may-try-royal-ascot

NTamm1215 · #2 03-08-2011, 05:10 PM

So he'll lose to Goldikova, I don't see the big deal. American horses trying the Dubai Duty Free is way crazier in my opinion and we had 3 of them last year.

Indian Charlie · #3 03-08-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So he'll lose to Goldikova, I don't see the big deal. American horses trying the Dubai Duty Free is way crazier in my opinion and we had 3 of them last year.

You didn't really read the article, did you?

I find it highly unlikely he'll lose to Goldikova.

NTamm1215 · #4 03-08-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

You didn't really read the article, did you?

I find it highly unlikely he'll lose to Goldikova.

I read too fast. Why six furlongs? That's obviously dumb.

Indian Charlie · #5 03-08-2011, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

I read too fast. Why six furlongs? That's obviously dumb.

It's dumb all around, especially with the easy money to be made here this year.

But 6f is beyond dumb.

Scav · #6 03-08-2011, 05:39 PM

Listen, it might be dumb, but are you considering that the owners might think it is once in a lifetime so why not take a shot? It isn't like the horse isn't paying his own way.

RolloTomasi · #7 03-08-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by NTamm1215

So he'll lose to Goldikova, I don't see the big deal. American horses trying the Dubai Duty Free is way crazier in my opinion and we had 3 of them last year.

Speaking of that, Bourbon Bay and Champ Pegasus, who have developed a nice little rivalry in the marathon turf division in SoCal since last fall, are targeting the 12f race in Dubai rather than continuing their private war at home in the San Luis Rey and San Juan Capistrano.

If those two end up dead-heating for 8th place behind some horses from Hong Kong and Britain I guess it will be just as exciting.

Skellytown has won a couple of $12.5k claimers on the main track at the Santa Anita meet, so I suppose by default he's the early favorite for the San Juan.

RolloTomasi · #8 03-08-2011, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

http://www.drf.com/news/caracortado-may-try-royal-ascot

My main gripe with this is the "once in a lifetime" BS. Caracortado is a once-in-a-lifetime horse now?

I guess so, if you are talking about the likelihood that a $5k CA-bred by Cat Dreams would develop into a Grade 2-calibur horse. However, none of that makes him qualified to tackle Group 1 company at Royal Ascot.

Last I checked, Fluke, the erstwhile allowance horse, won the Kilroe the other day.

What's the rush? He's gelded right? Why don't they build-up a resume with the Maker's Mark, Woodford Reserve, Shoemaker Mile, and Eddie Read (the races he will miss with this silly venture)? If he happens to win a couple of those, then they could shoot for the Queen Elizabeth II or the Champion Stakes and at least bring a record that glistens with more than just a Sunshine Millions Turf victory.

freddymo · #9 03-08-2011, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

My main gripe with this is the "once in a lifetime" BS. Caracortado is a once-in-a-lifetime horse now?

I guess so, if you are talking about the likelihood that a $5k CA-bred by Cat Dreams would develop into a Grade 2-calibur horse. However, none of that makes him qualified to tackle Group 1 company at Royal Ascot.

Last I checked, Fluke, the erstwhile allowance horse, won the Kilroe the other day.

What's the rush? He's gelded right? Why don't they build-up a resume with the Maker's Mark, Woodford Reserve, Shoemaker Mile, and Eddie Read (the races he will miss with this silly venture)? If he happens to win a couple of those, then they could shoot for the Queen Elizabeth II or the Champion Stakes and at least bring a record that glistens with more than just a Sunshine Millions Turf victory.

Maybe the drugs dont last that long...Troll

RolloTomasi · #10 03-08-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo

Maybe the drugs dont last that long...Troll

I guess maybe they ought to run Setsuko right back then...Idiot

freddymo · #11 03-08-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

I guess maybe they ought to run Setsuko right back then...Idiot

I would, but you havent been truthful about that plug since day one.. It's plainly obvious you are clued in. Let me guess Setsuko is part of phase 3 ROLLO trails..

Alan07 · #12 03-08-2011, 08:29 PM

Please NO Talamo.

Indian Charlie · #13 03-08-2011, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

My main gripe with this is the "once in a lifetime" BS. Caracortado is a once-in-a-lifetime horse now?

I guess so, if you are talking about the likelihood that a $5k CA-bred by Cat Dreams would develop into a Grade 2-calibur horse. However, none of that makes him qualified to tackle Group 1 company at Royal Ascot.

Last I checked, Fluke, the erstwhile allowance horse, won the Kilroe the other day.

What's the rush? He's gelded right? Why don't they build-up a resume with the Maker's Mark, Woodford Reserve, Shoemaker Mile, and Eddie Read (the races he will miss with this silly venture)? If he happens to win a couple of those, then they could shoot for the Queen Elizabeth II or the Champion Stakes and at least bring a record that glistens with more than just a Sunshine Millions Turf victory.

My thoughts exactly. He could make a shitton at home this year.

NTamm1215 · #14 03-08-2011, 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

My thoughts exactly. He could make a shitton at home this year.

I agree with both of you completely and can only assume they figure he'll be around for 2012 and can have a domestic campaign. If they have him back for the Woodbine Mile that's a great spot to prep for the BC.

blackthroatedwind · #15 03-08-2011, 07:57 PM

They were recruiting from Ascot this weekend at Santa Anita and it sounded like fun ( despite some comments in this thread....it would be fun ). My guess is it will sound like less of a good idea the more they think about it.

Indian Charlie · #16 03-08-2011, 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

They were recruiting from Ascot this weekend at Santa Anita and it sounded like fun ( despite some comments in this thread....it would be fun ). My guess is it will sound like less of a good idea the more they think about it.

No doubt it would a unique experience, and fun, but why 6f????????

blackthroatedwind · #17 03-08-2011, 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie

No doubt it would a unique experience, and fun, but why 6f????????

That's a reasonable question.

Could it be because they consider European races more demanding, thus 6F is more like 7F in theory? Or, maybe they are avoiding Goldikova?

Indian Charlie · #18 03-08-2011, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind

That's a reasonable question.

Could it be because they consider European races more demanding, thus 6F is more like 7F in theory? Or, maybe they are avoiding Goldikova?

Your answers would not make sense to me, in their shoes.

If indeed it is a once in a lifetime opportunity, why be total pussies about it? I mean why go through all the hassle, give up a lot of earnings potential here, and then duck the better race, in which their horse is a much better fit (Goldikova notwithstanding)?

DaTruth · #19 03-09-2011, 12:09 AM

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Could it be because they consider European races more demanding, thus 6F is more like 7F in theory?

Didn't BC Mile winners Last Tycoon and Royal Academy mostly race in 5f and 6f races in Europe?

Indian Charlie · #20 03-09-2011, 12:34 AM

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Didn't BC Mile winners Last Tycoon and Royal Academy mostly race in 5f and 6f races in Europe?

That was a long time ago, but you do have an interesting point.