Michigan Emergency Dictator bill

[Riot]

This is truly scary, and an absolute infringement upon our freedoms as voters, as citizens, to control our own towns.

If Obama did this, heads would literally be spinning off, and the cries of "fascist government takeover" wouldn't cease.

Emergency managers bill sweeps toward final approval
Union rights advocates call for mass protest
Michigan Messenger

Though Gov. Rick Snyder says he is not interested in hurting unions, yesterday’s Senate approval of a package that gives Emergency Managers complete power over financially troubled towns and school districts means he will soon be asked to sign off on measures that are expected to eliminate union jobs across the state.

In a party line vote, and despite impassioned speeches of protest by the body’s Democratic minority, the Michigan Senate approved legislation that threatens to take over and even dissolve local governments that refuse to balance their budgets by breaking labor contracts.
　
According to the law, which has already been approved in the House, the governor will be able to declare “financial emergency” in towns or school districts and appoint someone to fire local elected officials, break contracts, seize and sell assets, and eliminate services.

Under the law whole cities or school districts could be eliminated without any public participation or oversight, and amendments designed to provide minimal safeguards and public involvement were voted down.

More at http://michiganmessenger.com/47203/e...final-approval

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by Riot

This is truly scary, and an absolute infringement upon our freedoms as voters, as citizens, to control our own towns.

If Obama did this, heads would literally be spinning off, and the cries of "fascist government takeover" wouldn't cease.

Let's see...the Senate passed it..the House passed it...sometimes people get what they want whether they want to or not!

[Riot]

We can't possibly be this dumb, as a country. How can anybody in Michigan be standing for this? (it started under the Dem Governor).

Where a Governor, without your say, can come into your town, fire your Village board, shut down your schools (that your tax dollars bought and paid for), fire the teachers, and sell off the buildings? And your town has nothing to say about it?

Hello? America? Do you care what happens to you?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Well, this is what happens when people think the 2 parties are about the same.
They were too lazy to try to understand the basic ideology involved. They gave people from a single political party all the power. To now be surprised that these people are doing whatever ideological stuff they want to do? Do you know how ignorant that is? This is how ignorant a large part of the electorate is. Uh, yea, when Republicans have all the power, they will try to destroy unions. Gee, duh muthafkr! They interviewed a Madison Fireman today. He voted for Walker, and he says he feels duped. To me, that's shockingly ignorant. I think this whole situation is a lesson in civics that many Americans badly need. This is 100% about ignorant people voting against their own best interests. Eat your dinner, and shut the fk up. Know the ideology of the people involved.

[timmgirvan]

Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER

Well, this is what happens when people think the 2 parties are about the same.
They were too lazy to try to understand the basic ideology involved. They gave people from a single political party all the power. To now be surprised that these people are doing whatever ideological stuff they want to do? Do you know how ignorant that is? This is how ignorant a large part of the electorate is. Uh, yea, when Republicans have all the power, they will try to destroy unions. Gee, duh muthafkr! They interviewed a Madison Fireman today. He voted for Walker, and he says he feels duped. To me, that's shockingly ignorant. I think this whole situation is a lesson in civics that many Americans badly need. This is 100% about ignorant people voting against their own best interests. Eat your dinner, and shut the fk up. Know the ideology of the people involved.

They voted for Obama too, and most of them feel duped also!

[Riot]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

They voted for Obama too, and most of them feel duped also!

Not according to his popularity ratings (sky high), and job approval. Compare those to Reagan, Carter, Bush I & II at the same points in their Presidency. He's had more thrown at him than any other President, with a completely obstructionist opposition party. He's doing just fine. You don't have to like him, or his politics, but by any objective measure he's accomplishing the majority of exactly what he said he would. Duped? Out of what?

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

They voted for Obama too, and most of them feel duped also!

I think Progressives should feel a bit duped by him. National Healthcare was an important part of his candidacy. If people voted for him, and didn't want national healthcare, then, they were ignorant. Those people who expected him to honor his promise to allow the 2001 tax cuts for the rich to expire? They got duped. Those that expected him to honor his promise to recognize the Armenian Genocide? They got duped. He said "You need to make sure your child can speak Spanish." So, you knew going in that he'd be weak on curbing illegal immigration. I guess you could say that the stimulus is a reason one might feel duped, but it's hardly unique for a Democratic President to use Government resources to help people during a depression/recession. I think one could feel duped that he didn't go after Wallstreet thieves. Again, this is more of a progressive's disappointment.

[SCUDSBROTHER]

Riot, if the state voted Republican, then, what do you expect to have happen? Unless people get an ass kickin', they won't understand why it's a poor choice to vote for an R. The Middle Class is confused who to vote for. I don't think they will be confused again. Let them learn their lesson. Don't try to avoid that. They need a good ass kickin'.