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Old 03-16-2011, 09:15 PM
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Oh, BTW, this thread isn't about me, it's about the Republican Party , and how the GOP has changed - no matter what 3kings thinks

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PHILOSOPHY: "Our great President Dwight D. Eisenhower has counseled us further:
"In all those things which deal with people, be liberal, be human. Government must have a heart as well as a head. "

LABOR: "Workers have benefited by the progress which has been made
in carrying out the programs and principles set forth in the
1952 Republican platform. All workers have gained and unions
have grown in strength and responsibility, and have
increased their membership by 2 millions. "

EDUCATION
: "Republican action created the Department of Health,
Education and Welfare as the first new Federal department in
40 years, to raise the continuing consideration of these
problems for the first time to the highest council of
Government, the President's Cabinet."

FOREIGN POLICY: "We shall continue vigorously to support the United Nations."

SAFETY NET: The Federal minimum wage has been raised for
more than 2 million workers. Social Security has been
extended to an additional 10 million workers and the
benefits raised for 6 1/2 million. The protection of
unemployment insurance has been brought to 4 million
additional workers.

ENVIRONMENT: "We recognize the need for maintaining isolated wilderness
areas to provide opportunity for future generations to
experience some of the wilderness living through which the
traditional American spirit of hardihood was developed.
Added more than 400,000 acres to our National Park system,
and 90,000 acres to wildlife refuges."

From the Republican Party Platform, 1956
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:28 PM
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Great thread!

Please tell us more about you. Why you are so over bearing. Why you think your opinion is always right. Why you think you are smarter than everyone else. Everyone on this site is surely interested.
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Old 03-16-2011, 09:33 PM
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Great thread!

Please tell us more about you. Why you are so over bearing. Why you think your opinion is always right. Why you think you are smarter than everyone else. Everyone on this site is surely interested.
Ah, yes: the essential difference between what type of person makes up the current political parties. How the political GOP has changed. How it used to be a party with greatly different values than the corporate apologists they are today. How it used to be a political party one could be proud of belonging to. That is the point of this thread - not me.

Guess you missed that understanding? I'll change the title of the thread for you

Funny, I've never said my opinion is always right, or that I think I'm smarter than others, in fact I've literally said the opposite - multiple times. I guess that makes you ... ignorant? Or just stupid? Personal issues? Trying to start a fight?
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This was huffington's take on the Republican platform of 1956. She conveinantly left out 25 and 1/2 of 26 pages out. Some other tidbits include:

America's trust is in the merciful providence of God, in whose image every man is created ... the source of every man's dignity and freedom.

"In all those things which deal with people, be liberal, be human. In all those things which deal with people's money, or their economy, or their form of government, be conservative."

We shall continue to oppose the seating of Communist China in the United Nations.

Restoration of integrity in government has been an essential element to the achievement of our unparalleled good times. We will faithfully preserve the sound financial management which already has reduced annual spending $14 billion below the budgets planned by our Democratic predecessors and made possible in 1954 a $7.4-billion tax cut, the largest one-year tax reduction in history.

The Eisenhower Administration has brought to our people the highest employment, the highest wages and the highest standard of living ever enjoyed by any nation. Today there are nearly 67 million men and women at work in the United States, 4 million more than in 1952. Wages have increased substantially over the past 3 1/2 years; but, more important, the American wage earner today can buy more than ever before for himself and his family because his pay check has not been eaten away by rising taxes and soaring prices.

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We'll all die of radiation poisoning and the know-it-all thread-starter will still be here with the cockroaches.
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We'll all die of radiation poisoning and the know-it-all thread-starter will still be here with the cockroaches.
And the website loser will still be alone, looking at pictures of mock-ups of women's genitalia and trying to figure it all out.
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This was huffington's take on the Republican platform of 1956. She conveinantly left out 25 and 1/2 of 26 pages out. Some other tidbits include:

America's trust is in the merciful providence of God, in whose image every man is created ... the source of every man's dignity and freedom.

"In all those things which deal with people, be liberal, be human. In all those things which deal with people's money, or their economy, or their form of government, be conservative."

We shall continue to oppose the seating of Communist China in the United Nations.

Restoration of integrity in government has been an essential element to the achievement of our unparalleled good times. We will faithfully preserve the sound financial management which already has reduced annual spending $14 billion below the budgets planned by our Democratic predecessors and made possible in 1954 a $7.4-billion tax cut, the largest one-year tax reduction in history.

The Eisenhower Administration has brought to our people the highest employment, the highest wages and the highest standard of living ever enjoyed by any nation. Today there are nearly 67 million men and women at work in the United States, 4 million more than in 1952. Wages have increased substantially over the past 3 1/2 years; but, more important, the American wage earner today can buy more than ever before for himself and his family because his pay check has not been eaten away by rising taxes and soaring prices.

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gtfo...she never quotes huffy
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Old 03-17-2011, 12:40 PM
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gtfo...she never quotes huffy
Actually I've quoted the HuffPo many times. And AP, Daily Beast. Even National Review and Wall Street Journal. Do you read?
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Restoration of integrity in government has been an essential element to the achievement of our unparalleled good times. We will faithfully preserve the sound financial management which already has reduced annual spending $14 billion below the budgets planned by our Democratic predecessors and made possible in 1954 a $7.4-billion tax cut, the largest one-year tax reduction in history.
Wow, if only they still followed that one, right?

What do you think of the change the GOP has undergone in the past 50-60 years, specifically in regards to social issues? You think it's been a positive or negative change?

I miss that Republican party - which was still around until the late 1980's or so.

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This was huffington's take on the Republican platform of 1956. She conveinantly left out 25 and 1/2 of 26 pages out. Some other tidbits include:
No, that was not written by Arianna Huffington. That is a real person, you know, so don't say it's a quote when it isn't.

It's not someone's "take", it's direct quotes from the Republican platform. And no, I never said or implied it's the entire platform - obviously it is not. I only posted the social issues part, which is so different than today.

What do you think about those changes?
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Some other tidbits include:

America's trust is in the merciful providence of God, in whose image every man is created ... the source of every man's dignity and freedom.
Good point.
This is an important exception to the "things change" rule.
The bizarre belief in fairy tales seems to be a remarkably resilient feature of all major American political parties.
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Ah, yes: the essential difference between what type of person makes up the current political parties. How the political GOP has changed. How it used to be a party with greatly different values than the corporate apologists they are today. How it used to be a political party one could be proud of belonging to.
its a good point but what you leave out is the democrats are the same way.....there are no values in either party. sure they run their mouths but look at the results. the reason we are in big trouble is BOTH parties. if you were raised republican or democrat and you still believe in either....you are sort of a moron.......just take a look around and watch how both operate.! there are a few good ones in each party that tell the truth....but they are mouthpieces and the party elite will never let them win........watch how far ron paul and denis kucinich go in their respective parties....one is a die hard conservative the other a liberal.....but they pretty much tell the same story....gee, i wonder why? because its the truth and the corporations(plus the FED) and either party would never have it.............its called CORPORATE RULE. the most obvious was the bailout fiasco.....NO ONE WAS CHARGED WITH A THING???? they got bonuses for wrecking the economy. gee, i wonder why? which party did a thing about it? now they can contribute unlimited amounts of money to campaigns....yeah, things are going to be peachy for years to come......lol..lol. you are talking about a time (1956)when at least both parties thought about the PEOPLE........thats long gone folks, unless people wake up and force the issue...but they are dumb(don't know they're being separated by two corrupt parties) and lazy as we fall like Greece or Rome....read a history book.......this is how every empire fell.....hopefully i'll be gone before it happens but i have kids and a grand kid.
i left out the guy in vermont....sanders??? independant, that guy they paint as a commie or socialist because he says the people are getting screwed....keep believing the media and his opponents.....hes a commie the "people" are getting great deal......yeah ok....i'm buying that crap.....

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great news!

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...iNb_story.html
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its a good point but what you leave out is the democrats are the same way.....there are no values in either party. sure they run their mouths but look at the results. the reason we are in big trouble is BOTH parties. if you were raised republican or democrat and you still believe in either....you are sort of a moron.......just take a look around and watch how both operate.! there are a few good ones in each party that tell the truth....but they are mouthpieces and the party elite will never let them win........watch how far ron paul and denis kucinich go in their respective parties....one is a die hard conservative the other a liberal.....but they pretty much tell the same story....gee, i wonder why? because its the truth and the corporations(plus the FED) and either party would never have it.............its called CORPORATE RULE. the most obvious was the bailout fiasco.....NO ONE WAS CHARGED WITH A THING???? they got bonuses for wrecking the economy. gee, i wonder why? which party did a thing about it? now they can contribute unlimited amounts of money to campaigns....yeah, things are going to be peachy for years to come......lol..lol. you are talking about a time (1956)when at least both parties thought about the PEOPLE........thats long gone folks, unless people wake up and force the issue...but they are dumb(don't know they're being separated by two corrupt parties) and lazy as we fall like Greece or Rome....read a history book.......this is how every empire fell.....hopefully i'll be gone before it happens but i have kids and a grand kid.
i left out the guy in vermont....sanders??? independant, that guy they paint as a commie or socialist because he says the people are getting screwed....keep believing the media and his opponents.....hes a commie the "people" are getting great deal......yeah ok....i'm buying that crap.....
I have to agree...I usually support the Democrat because I believe that generally speaking, they are the lesser of two evils but both parties are married to the status quo....feed the rich and let the poor starve. Slowly the middle class is disappearing and becoming the working poor and yet folks believe that balancing the budget on the backs of those who can least afford it while letting the rich get richer is the way to go.
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the lesser of two evils is still evil. the two party system is broken, it's been broken. this country goes back and forth between the two, looking for someone to fix our problems. yeah, that's working well.
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Great thread!

Please tell us more about you. Why you are so over bearing. Why you think your opinion is always right. Why you think you are smarter than everyone else. Everyone on this site is surely interested.
It seems to me like the thread is actually about how the Republican Party has changed their positions on some issues in the last half century. Of course they have. So have the Democrats.
New issues arise, new political coalitions form, etc. For decades the base of the Dempcratic Party were conservative white southerners. Now conservative white southerners are the base of the Republican Party. Things change.
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For comparison, here is the Democratic Party Platform for 1956:

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/in...#axzz1GstPasRE

And this is awesome: every party platform our country has ever had

http://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/ws/in...#axzz1GstPasRE
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Please tell us more about you. Why you are so over bearing. Why you think your opinion is always right. Why you think you are smarter than everyone else. Everyone on this site is surely interested.


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Oh, BTW, this thread isn't about me, it's about the Republican Party , and how the GOP has changed - no matter what 3kings thinks
I remember those days as well....
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I remember those days as well....
Ah HA ! I knew I wasn't crazy

I talk to lots of friends who had always been Republican, too. There's been a definite shift in what the party stands for in the past 10 years. I wish they'd go back more towards what they used to be.

Now, the GOP has a "purity test" for candidates that not even Bush or Reagan could pass
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Ah HA ! I knew I wasn't crazy

I talk to lots of friends who had always been Republican, too. There's been a definite shift in what the party stands for in the past 10 years. I wish they'd go back more towards what they used to be.

Now, the GOP has a "purity test" for candidates that not even Bush or Reagan could pass
I must admit, I shifted from Republican to Independent about the mid-60's, once I became involved in the Civil Right's movement I found my beliefs far to the left of both parties. I had little regard for "liberals" cause I saw them as two-faced and cowardly (especially in the south), at least when I came face to face with the Klan, I knew where I stood. Not much has changed for me over the past 40 years or so...
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