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04-12-2011, 07:47 PM
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150 years ago today...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/42547375/ns/us_news/
honestly, i'm surprised no one already started a thread about this....surely i'm not the only history buff here? at any rate, i'm in the midst of shelby foote's 3 volumes about the civil war, with the siege of vicksburg about to commence....i recommend the books to anyone with a slight interest or a love of reading. a somber day. whenever i visit a civil war battlefield, the word that most comes to mind is poignant. it's a shame it had to come to war; reading that 600,000 were lost to settle differences is mind-boggling, and a crying shame. hopefully, we learn from our past.
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04-12-2011, 09:35 PM
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poignant indeed.
and very nice of ancestry.com to give free access to civil war records until thursday. As you read about the seige of Vicksburg, know that I had a direct descendant captured just before @ Big Black, then his father captured July 4 @ Vicksburg. The elder was paroled, captured at a later battle, and died of starvation as a p.o.w.. Hope to get to Annapolis one day to visit him. The irony is that he enlisted as a substitute for a drafted wealthy businessman....some things remain the same.
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04-12-2011, 10:07 PM
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Going to Gettysburg tomarrow. Total History buff and can't wait to stand at the Clump of Trees and imagine Pickett's division marching toward us. Watched the repeat of Ken Burn's "The Civil War" this week to get immersed in the moment.
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04-13-2011, 07:15 AM
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quite a few northern soldiers were there as a result of being paid to take another persons' place. also, i read that the only man executed after the war for war crimes was the man in charge of andersonville prison...over 12000 men died there.
i've been to vicksburg, gettysburg, shiloh, manassas, pea ridge. going to chattanooga and chickamauga in august. some day chancellorsville and antietam-the house where stonewall died after chancellorsville is still there, but not open to many. also, the conspirator opens friday-about mary surratt. i've been to where her house still stands; also travelled the route that john wilkes booth took after the assassination-also been to dr. mudd's. of course, it helped that i grew up near there. fascination, amazing...you look at maps showing how the armies travelled-no wonder they went thru shoes like crazy!
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04-13-2011, 08:24 AM
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(sorry I was watching the John Wilkes Booth special on History Channel the other night) I've been to Mudd's house also.... I think he was innocent.
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04-13-2011, 12:05 PM
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Link to the secession statements from Georgia, Mississippi, South Carolina and Texas. Useful reading when dealing with people who insist the war was not fought over slavery:
http://sunsite.utk.edu/civil-war/reasons.html Money quote (from Texas): "We hold as undeniable truths that the governments of the various States, and of the confederacy itself, were established exclusively by the white race, for themselves and their posterity; that the African race had no agency in their establishment; that they were rightfully held and regarded as an inferior and dependent race, and in that condition only could their existence in this country be rendered beneficial or tolerable. That in this free government *all white men are and of right ought to be entitled to equal civil and political rights* [emphasis in the original]; that the servitude of the African race, as existing in these States, is mutually beneficial to both bond and free, and is abundantly authorized and justified by the experience of mankind, and the revealed will of the Almighty Creator, as recognized by all Christian nations; while the destruction of the existing relations between the two races, as advocated by our sectional enemies, would bring inevitable calamities upon both and desolation upon the fifteen slave-holding states."
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04-13-2011, 07:26 PM
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lol no, i just remember country roads and brown signs.
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04-13-2011, 07:54 PM
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04-13-2011, 08:22 AM
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04-14-2011, 01:11 AM
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Sitting in my hotel room in Gettysburg right now. Two very nice days of weather coming up and looking forward to walking around the battlefield. Wish I could get the family to do the horseback thing but my son had a bad experiance with the horses in the Boy Scouts and won't go near them!
Big thing around here right now is the attempt to bring in a CASINO. Will be interesting to hear how that plays out too.
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04-14-2011, 07:28 PM
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04-13-2011, 07:38 PM
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If anyone is looking for a great read, check out Confederates In The Attic by Tony Horwitz.
One review of the book said; "The Civil War rages across the South in ways both quirky and compelling." I couldn't put this book down when I first read it. Laughed my butt off. It's not historical, just lots of fun.
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