Frankel

Thunder Gulch · #1 07-27-2011, 11:28 AM

Good grief this horse is something special. I sure hope he comes to Churchill. Will be quite a sight to see Goldlikova going for #4 as a decided underdog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeUB8...ature=youtu.be

somerfrost · #2 07-27-2011, 11:36 AM

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Good grief this horse is something special. I sure hope he comes to Churchill. Will be quite a sight to see Goldlikova going for #4 as a decided underdog.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YeUB8...ature=youtu.be

I think he erased a lot of doubts today....truly the best horse in training.

Calzone Lord · #3 07-27-2011, 11:45 AM

People on Facebook are busting nuts over this race like it was some performance of a lifetime...

On face value, he walked on a laughably uncontested lead while rating kindly in a 4 horse field - and poured it on late as his main rival was getting out badly - struggling and inable to keep straight.

I hope the time was remarkable - because if it wasn't - this is one seriously over-hyped performance.

Seattleallstar · #4 07-27-2011, 11:53 AM

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People on Facebook are busting nuts over this race like it was some performance of a lifetime...

On face value, he walked on a laughably uncontested lead while rating kindly in a 4 horse field - and poured it on late as his main rival was getting out badly - struggling and inable to keep straight.

I hope the time was remarkable - because if it wasn't - this is one seriously over-hyped performance.

I dont know what race you were watching, but Frankel just defeated one of the best horses in the world as if the horse were standing still. Did it impressively and with ease. I dont know how beating the formerly best horse in the world an overhyped performance. What the hell were you looking for, for Frankel to sprout wings in deep stretch and fly?

Calzone Lord · #5 07-27-2011, 12:08 PM

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I dont know what race you were watching,

A 4-horse race - where the winner is trotting comfortably on a 3-length lead after a quarter mile.

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but Frankel just defeated one of the best horses in the world as if the horse were standing still.

That horse wasn't standing still - he was going sideways.

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I dont know how beating the formerly best horse in the world an overhyped performance.

The winner was easily odds-on in the betting. And people are calling him everything from the best 3yo ever to the best horse in their lifetime.

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What the hell were you looking for, for Frankel to sprout wings in deep stretch and fly?

Obviously he ran a great race. He had the race served up to him on a platter and he hit it out of the park. 2nd place looked like he had some issues.

Seattleallstar · #6 07-27-2011, 12:12 PM

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A 4-horse race - where the winner is trotting comfortably on a 3-length lead after a quarter mile.

That horse wasn't standing still - he was going sideways.

The winner was easily odds-on in the betting. And people are calling him everything from the best 3yo ever to the best horse in their lifetime.

Obviously he ran a great race. He had the race served up to him on a platter and he hit it out of the park. 2nd place looked like he had some issues.

maybe the best 3yr old in Europe, you cant compare the 3y old here and over there until they compete on the same surface, and same race

Indian Charlie · #7 07-27-2011, 04:26 PM

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People on Facebook are busting nuts over this race like it was some performance of a lifetime...

On face value, he walked on a laughably uncontested lead while rating kindly in a 4 horse field - and poured it on late as his main rival was getting out badly - struggling and inable to keep straight.

I hope the time was remarkable - because if it wasn't - this is one seriously over-hyped performance.

I could not possibly agree more. Will the runnerup even run again?

That race was awfully similar in the way it was run to the Timely Writer earlier this year.

Except the one really good horse in this race (besides the winner) ended up on the outer rail.

Calzone Lord · #8 07-27-2011, 04:31 PM

People are saying watching the race brought them to tears on Facebook.

Every year, there is a new Euro 3-year-old who's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

Most of the time - they hold that reputation, too.

Riot · #9 07-27-2011, 05:54 PM

Just enjoy the horse, even if this particular race wasn't spectacular time-wise. I know there are some people here who are less about the horse, and more about the numbers. That's how they interpret things. Not visually, but numerically. Fine, but try to shift over to just enjoy this gifted horse and his performance.

Three furlongs out, Frankel was 1-2 ahead of Canfield Cliffs, who was just about all out to try and simply keep up with Frankel just cruising along, pulling on his jock with those huge steady strides. Look at the difference in stride turnover. That's where this horse won the race, by the 2 furlong to go mark.

This horse reminds me of Secretariat when he runs. Huge strides, big bodied, tremendously strong, machine-like strides, the jock couldn't half pull him up at the end, and the horse wasn't even blowing. An amazing horse.

I think Canfield Cliffs just drifted under the jocks weight as he was tired and trying his heart out. He didn't change leads and looking at his stride (right hind) he just seemed all in. This horse ran his heart out, too, and he's a darn good horse.

Mawhip · #10 07-27-2011, 06:02 PM

Anyone who didn't think Frankel's performance was devestating doesn't know anything about racing. He destroyed a horse that had just won somethingl ike five consecutive G1 races at a mile. Cansfield Cliffs put a whipping on the great Goldikova in his previous start. Everyone knows time is meanlingless in Europe. I ask anyone to name a better miler than Frankel in the last 30 years.

Calzone Lord · #11 07-27-2011, 06:06 PM

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I know there are some people here who are less about the horse, and more about the numbers. That's how they interpret things. Not visually, but numerically. Fine, but try to shift over to just enjoy this gifted horse and his performance.

I thought the time was supposed to be spectacular - hence the high timeform.

The performance was a glorified workout.

OTM Al · #12 07-27-2011, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

People on Facebook are busting nuts over this race like it was some performance of a lifetime...

On face value, he walked on a laughably uncontested lead while rating kindly in a 4 horse field - and poured it on late as his main rival was getting out badly - struggling and inable to keep straight.

I hope the time was remarkable - because if it wasn't - this is one seriously over-hyped performance.

Final time 1:37.47. It looked a lot better than it really was. If those fractions that are listed are true then the first half mile was run in a glacial 52 and change. I totally agree with you on this one. Analysis dead on.

Patrick333 · #13 07-27-2011, 04:37 PM

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I think he erased a lot of doubts today....truly the best horse in training.

You could be right. He might be the best horse in training. My only disappointment was that it was a four horse field. If he had won as impressively with a six or seven horse field then I probably would be thinking he was the best horse in training.

Thunder Gulch · #14 07-27-2011, 05:10 PM

Timeform gives him a 142 rating. That's historically big for those guys.

His rating after the Sussex is now 142 and has him behind only Sea-Bird (145), Brigadier Gerard (144) and Tudor Minstrel (144) in Timeform history.

Arletta · #15 07-27-2011, 05:12 PM

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Timeform gives him a 142 rating. That's historically big for those guys.

His rating after the Sussex is now 142 and has him behind only Sea-Bird (145), Brigadier Gerard (144) and Tudor Minstrel (144) in Timeform history.

ateamstupid · #16 07-27-2011, 11:40 AM

That was scary good. Wonder why Canford Cliffs drifted out so badly though.

Thunder Gulch · #17 07-27-2011, 11:57 AM

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That was scary good. Wonder why Canford Cliffs drifted out so badly though.

That was troubling. When he started going way out, I thought he would get passed by the other horse inside, but at least he finished to get 2nd. Wouldn't surprise me if something comes back wrong with him, but that doesn't take anything away from the winner.