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Old 12-28-2011, 12:55 PM
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http://www.betonline.com/sports-bett...e-betting-2404

This is from this article on Joe Woodard

"On the other end of the spectrum if he runs back a beaten favorite, you have to stay away from those runners with a vengeance. He is 0 for 737 the past 5 years with beaten chalk."

Is it possible this is accurate? It seems impossible for a beaten favorite to not have rebounded to win over 700 times in a row. If he is winning at 40% with favs that means the other 60% that lose havent won next out in over 5 years? Doug???
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Old 12-28-2011, 12:58 PM
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http://www.betonline.com/sports-bett...e-betting-2404

This is from this article on Joe Woodard

"On the other end of the spectrum if he runs back a beaten favorite, you have to stay away from those runners with a vengeance. He is 0 for 737 the past 5 years with beaten chalk."

Is it possible this is accurate? It seems impossible for a beaten favorite to not have rebounded to win over 700 times in a row. If he is winning at 40% with favs that means the other 60% that lose havent won next out in over 5 years? Doug???

Ill forumlate it. Give me a minute.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:02 PM
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It's true. Amazing stat.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:09 PM
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I spoke too soon. When you type it into Formulator it does in fact come up as 0 for 764 now. But if you look at a horse like Delta Charlie, he was a beaten favorite at Mountaineer on April 16th and then came back 10 days later and won. He was a beaten favorite on May 27th and then won his next race on August 13th.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:10 PM
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Perhaps he denys them ice, as a punishment, when they lose?
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:13 PM
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Im done. But Hoss got it already.
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Old 12-28-2011, 01:21 PM
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Perhaps he denys them ice, as a punishment, when they lose?
Considering the purse levels at some of the tracks he runs at I'm not sure how he feeds them win or lose.
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Old 12-29-2011, 06:11 AM
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Amazing stat.
Speaking of which ... what is the deal with Dom Galluscio trained 3rd time starters who run in NY Bred Stakes races?







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Old 12-29-2011, 06:04 AM
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"On the other end of the spectrum if he runs back a beaten favorite, you have to stay away from those runners with a vengeance. He is 0 for 737 the past 5 years with beaten chalk."
It basically just means that he's trained 737 horses who've failed to win as the post time favorite over the last 5 years.

I think Formulator puts that stat in there so you can study the PP's of a trainers beaten favorites and look for your own angles and trends.
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