French Deputy as a broodmare sire of first-time-starters

Calzone Lord · #1 01-23-2012, 06:57 PM

I thought this one deserved its own thread:

French Deputy as a broodmare sire - with first-time starters:

2011: 52-10-5-6 (19% Wins) 3.22 ROI

* 2nd place finishes at 12/1 odds, 19/1 odds, and 29/1 odds. 3rd place finishes at 14/1, 23/1, and 26/1 odds.

** Of the 21 horses who hit the board, a few have VERY bright futures. Overdriven, who won his debut with something like a 100 Beyer going 5 furlongs for Pletcher/Repole is one. Ciao Bella (the most impressive female 2yo debuter at Gulfstream's meet this year) is another. Midnight Transfer, who just won a stakes race at SA with a Beyer in the 90's last week, is another.

2010: 48-14-6-5 (29 % wins) 4.28 ROI

* 2nd place finishes at 29/1 odds and 33/1 odds. 3rd place finishes at 11/1, 16/1, 21/1, and 75/1 !!!

2009: 49-9-3-7 (18% wins) 2.53 ROI

* This group includes Uh Oh Bango. Who was a chalky debut winner at Praire Meadows. He won a Grade 2 stake at Santa Anita earlier this month.

2008: 42-6-0-7 (14% wins) 1.59 ROI

2007: 27-5-6-2 (19% wins) 3.11 ROI

* 2nd place finishers at 10/1, 13/1, 31/1, and 36/1 odds. 3rd place finishers at 14/1 and 16/1 odds.

** I believe this small group included two future Kentucky Derby also-rans. Smooth Air (Byk's favorite horse) won it's debut at Calder at 12/1 odds. That one was sired by Smooth Jazz out of a French Deputy mare. Future King's Bishop winner Visionaire also debuted in 2007.

Overall: They are 44-for-218 (20.2% wins) and VERY profitable on debut. Ten of the 44 winners won at double digit odds...and many bombs finished 2nd and 3rd.

RolloTomasi · #2 01-23-2012, 07:00 PM

...a few have VERY bright futures. Overdriven, who won for Pletcher/Repole is one.

I laughed.

Calzone Lord · #3 01-23-2012, 07:01 PM

I should have said the other two. What's happened to Overdriven anyway?

Internal problems?

RolloTomasi · #4 01-23-2012, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

I should have said the other two. What's happened to Overdriven anyway?

Internal problems?

Who knows.

By the way, the mare French Debutante is a pretty significant factor in French Deputy's stats as a broodmare sire. She's dropped 5 foals, the first 4 all winners, 3 in stakes and 3 won their debuts.

The youngest, EZ Effort, just ran second on the undercard of sibling Uh Oh Bango's San Pasqual win. He was beaten by a horse named Three Rivers, whose previous effort was a second place finish in a stakes race while making his racing debut.

Despite the potent win-early stats of the family, he still went off at nearly 6-1.

Calzone Lord · #5 01-23-2012, 07:33 PM

It's a shame he only had three or four crops race here -- or the sample sizes would have been much larger. The vast majority of his broodmares are obviously in Japan.

How many French Deputy's have debuted in the US in the last five years -- the last one I could find won it's debut at Del Mar at 17/1 odds on Synthetic and upset Gayego 2nd time out in a 7/1 victory.

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...try=USA&race=7

http://www.equibase.com/premium/eqbP...try=USA&race=2

Calzone Lord · #6 01-23-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RolloTomasi

By the way, the mare French Debutante is a pretty significant factor in French Deputy's stats as a broodmare sire. She's dropped 5 foals, the first 4 all winners, 3 in stakes and 3 won their debuts.

The youngest, EZ Effort, just ran second on the undercard of sibling Uh Oh Bango's San Pasqual win. He was beaten by a horse named Three Rivers, whose previous effort was a second place finish in a stakes race while making his racing debut.

Despite the potent win-early stats of the family, he still went off at nearly 6-1.

Three of the five mares French Debutante dropped were sired by Top Hit (who stands for 2K in Arizona)

The other two were sired by In Excess -- one of which made over 500K and the other was EZ Effort who you mention.

They should breed her to a bigtime stallion.

RolloTomasi · #7 01-23-2012, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Calzone Lord

They should breed her to a bigtime stallion.

That's a good idea. Too bad they didn't try Indian Charlie when they had a chance. The same connections that race the foals owns Top Hit (who they also raced with some success).

I wonder from your stats if there's a certain cross that seems to be successful.